Carbon Fiber hood Weight

[JustinP10]

Well, since no one has weighed their hood yet I guess I'll have to post this. I e-mailed the seller of the P10 CF hoods and asked about a weight. He said 20-25lbs.
Constructed with fiberglass skeleton and the rest carbon fiber.

He also mentioned that when shopping for a hood I don't want it too light as it can lift up if it's too light and stuff. HAHAHA, is that their excuse for making a heavy hood? :p I know you're supposed to use hood pins, that's not a big deal as i'll get some flush mount style to hold the edges of the hood down and stay out of view for the most part.

I'm sorry, but that's WAY too heavy for a carbon fiber hood for a P10. Guys, please weigh your hoods and see if his weight is accurate!!! Stock is around 35 if i remember correctly.
If it's only going to be a 10lb difference I'd just gut the underside of the stock hood and be just as light at the track w/ a spare hood from a junkyard or something like that, maybe lighter.
This is why i've been trying to get you guys to weigh it all along, as it sits right now this is more show than go, when it was supposed to be the other way around! DOH!

[1999G]

yea but........ thye look cool :D ;) :nervous:

[theneonoutlet]

ya but for $400 @#$% dollars i can stick on carbon fiber sticker to a stock hood a lot cheaper. if EVERYONES weigh that much ill just find a stock hood (mines all banged up)

[tdog551]

i'm headed to jgy on saterday, when he has the hood off i'll see if he has a scale to weigh it on

[RydeOn]

The hoods should not weigh that much. It is the fiberglass that is making it so heavy, which also cuts costs down. A yard of CF costs about $45 dollars, a yard of fiberglass cost $7-10. Try to find someone that can offer you a pure CF hood.

[UltraOrange]

Hey they are real nice looking and most CF hoods are crap. I would prefer to have a "light" CF hood 10 pounds is not worth 400 bucks. Justin is right for that much weight savings I can use my dremel and a spare hood and lighten it at least 15LBS

[Sir-C]

Originally posted by 2000G
yea but........ thye look cool :D ;) :nervous:


ditto

[JustinP10]

Originally posted by RydeOn
The hoods should not weigh that much. It is the fiberglass that is making it so heavy, which also cuts costs down. A yard of CF costs about $45 dollars, a yard of fiberglass cost $7-10. Try to find someone that can offer you a pure CF hood.

The problem isn't the fiberglass. I could make a full fiberglass hood that's less than 20-25lbs, it just wouldn't be quite as strong as a full CF hood. Most all of the weight is from the manufacturing process and it's related to how much resin they use (in this case apparently too much).

At least from my understanding after talking to a couple different individuals....

[RydeOn]

Resin content is one of the main factors, but fiberglass is still a fair bit heavier than CF. It sounds like all they are doing is making a fiberglass hood and then putting a layer of CF over it. I would not call that a CF hood. That is a fiberglass hood coated with CF instead of paint.

[nis.k.a.]

I just bought a CF hood for my P10 as I needed a new one. Accident.....anyways the cost from 9 different shops IN MY AREA said $500+ for a new hood and paint. I could have gotten a used hood from the Nissan/Infiniti wrecking yard but why when I could spring for a new, lighter, better looking CF? In my case...the purchase is justified.....

This thread is kind of striking me weird. The same comparison can be made about wheels...only those circumstances are a lot worse....yet nothing....

I do know of one case where a blank CF hood flipped up on one of my best friends Civics when on the highway. No skeleton just a strong, light sheet of CF and hood pins. Trust me, the hood was quality. That hood was demolished along with a cracked windshield and a near heart-attack. So, I wouldn't be too quick too laugh.

[JASG20]

Originally posted by nis.k.a.


This thread is kind of striking me weird. The same comparison can be made about wheels...only those circumstances are a lot worse....yet nothing....

I don't agree. A large part of cars is the wheels. When you buy a luxury car, the nicer the rims the more $ the car costs...

Look at the FX45 on dubs, that makes the car. Rims play a huge factor in the looks of the car...if it has little steel 13's the car looks like trash...If it has some sweet Koning tantrums on it, it adds a helluva lot toe thecar... whereas CF hoods, u dont see that too often on nice cars...u wont see a Benz with a Lorinzer package including the 18 inch rims with a CF hood...

JAS

[nis.k.a.]

I wasn't reffering to looks so much. I was referring to cost comparison and function of differing wheels. $4000 chrome 19's compared to $800 semi-light 16" Konig's. Let's not bring up rotational inertia and unsprung weight. There a huge gap in price and function. A couple dollars between hoods? C'Mon.... A CF hood looks better than stock in most purchasers opinion. It's still lighter which poses at least some function beyond looks. What justifies the price difference (in hoods) is not set in stone only in opinion.

The fact is the weight saving of a CF hood isn't going to be noticed if that's the only step people are going to take to lighten weight. People spend more money on a non-functional, waste IMO, spoilers for their FWD cars.

BTW, a CF hood on a Benz looks tight.....look at the eBay 2 page ad in the front of SCC.

Looks vs. function.......already discussed. I give props to people who have good function and looks which is very much achievable. I will never give props to any car with chrome dubs.

[JASG20]

Originally posted by nis.k.a.
I wasn't reffering to looks so much. I was referring to cost comparison and function of differing wheels. $4000 chrome 19's compared to $800 semi-light 16" Konig's. Let's not bring up rotational inertia and unsprung weight. There a huge gap in price and function. A couple dollars between hoods? C'Mon.... A CF hood looks better than stock in most purchasers opinion. It's still lighter which poses at least some function beyond looks. What justifies the price difference (in hoods) is not set in stone only in opinion.

Thats true. But nice rims, to almost everyone, arent ricey

Originally posted by nis.k.a.
The fact is the weight saving of a CF hood isn't going to be noticed if that's the only step people are going to take to lighten weight. People spend more money on a non-functional, waste IMO, spoilers for their FWD cars.

Thats also very true...spoilers are for looks, but then again its 150 vs 400 bucks....worth it??

Originally posted by nis.k.a.
BTW, a CF hood on a Benz looks tight.....look at the eBay 2 page ad in the front of SCC.

Never seen one, cant imagine what it would look like...

Originally posted by nis.k.a.
Looks vs. function.......already discussed. I give props to people who have good function and looks which is very much achievable. I will never give props to any car with chrome dubs.

Nor will i. Looks vs Function has been around longer than cars have, its just the owners opinion which comes first

JAS

[trbobrk]

Originally posted by JASG20
Thats also very true...spoilers are for looks, but then again its 150 vs 400 bucks....worth it??
Where are you getting a spoiler for $150? Most end up being closer to the $350 cost of the hood once you have it painted and installed.

[trbobrk]

Originally posted by nis.k.a.
I just bought a CF hood for my P10 as I needed a new one.
Awesome. That will make 3 P10s in the NW with them. We should meet up sometime and take pics.

[JASG20]

Originally posted by trbobrk

Where are you getting a spoiler for $150? Most end up being closer to the $350 cost of the hood once you have it painted and installed.


Erebuni. T style spoiler 150. Paint, 10 bucks (my boss's friend has an autobody shop)
so ok, 160, install it myself, and theres my spoiler

JAS

[JustinP10]

Originally posted by nis.k.a.
I just bought a CF hood for my P10 as I needed a new one.
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This thread is kind of striking me weird. The same comparison can be made about wheels...only those circumstances are a lot worse....yet nothing....
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You're circumstances were different. If I was in your shoes on that one, I would have done the same thing (most likely).

I created this thread because I thought the exact weight of the CF hoods was VERY pertinent to anyone looking into them. Carbon fiber hoods are sold as a lightweight "performance" mod. At least in the eyes of many. This hood available for our cars really isn't a good deal for the money, unless you only care about looks. If you're looking for performance it's not a good deal at all and you should look elsewhere for $300+ worth of performance. I think it's great information to have for anyone looking to get a lighter weight hood.... but maybe it's just me.....

[nis.k.a.]

One wing....but there are so many more..good comparison but you're taking the lowest cost one an making the comparison. I've gotta agree with Colin...it's more like $300. All my wastiod friends spend in this range.

Justin - Yeah...but it's not like G20 owners have more choices with CF hoods.....