: P11 brake upgrade



89rodknocker
May 07, 11, 11:29 PM
I've been looking around on here and cant seem to find a diffintive brake upgrade answer. I Don't want to do the brembo upgrade just too expensive.

So what are my other options. I seen the q45 upgrade for the front but seem most are using that on p10's.

I'm probally gonna do the a32 bracket on the rear with ebc pads. So what would be a good upgrade for the ft? Or should i keep stock with rotors and ebc's all around.

G20dream
May 08, 11, 12:05 AM
EBC Yellow or Hawk Hp+ all around.This will be a dusty set-up but a well working one just add slotted disc and good line and everything will be ok and not to expensive

89rodknocker
May 08, 11, 12:07 AM
Would the maxi rear upgrade be worth it.

SgtDGun
May 08, 11, 12:11 AM
for the front

I was working on using the 305mm brembo rotors with the later 296mm Altima brackets but haven't tried it yet. worse case is you might have to have the rotors turned down to around 298 to 300mm. was going to try this with the g20 calipers and the altima calipers and see which worked better. here are the compatible vehicles. you would have to drill the front bracket holes larger so this isn't reversible once you do it.
front brackets
NISSAN ALTIMA (2002 - 2006)
NISSAN ALTIMA S 2006
NISSAN ALTIMA SE 2006
NISSAN ALTIMA SE-R 2006
NISSAN ALTIMA SL 2006
NISSAN MAXIMA (2003 - 2004)
NISSAN MAXIMA SE (2005 - 2007)
NISSAN MAXIMA SL (2005 - 2007)

front rotors
NISSAN SENTRA SE-R SPEC V (2003 - 2006)

this only moves you up from 11 inch stock to 11.65 to 11.9 inch rotor depending on how much you have to take off but keeps the same weight 15 lbs.

also you can go to 12.6 maxima rotors using maxima calipers and brackets, the rotors are thicker and weigh 22lbs and the calipers are heavier as well and you have to redrill the rotors to 4 lug if you aren't doing a 5 lug upgrade. you also have to drill the mounting holes on your car bigger so this isn't reversible once you do it,
NISSAN MAXIMA 2004
NISSAN MAXIMA SE (2005 - 2008)
NISSAN MAXIMA SL (2005 - 2008)

the rear brembo sentra rotors and a32 brackets is the cheapest rear setup. adds about an inch and brings the rears up to the same size as the stock fronts

SgtDGun
May 08, 11, 12:28 AM
not sure where you got the idea that maxima rears work but the 11.5 inch ones have a 62mm hat depth versus 44mm g20. so that wouldn't work.

and the earlier ones that have the right hat depth are still 5 lug and have the same 11 inch diameter as the brembo sentra.

SgtDGun
May 08, 11, 12:50 AM
cheapest upgrade is good pads and braided lines with some good fluid.

00 blk G20t
May 08, 11, 08:58 AM
brembo setups are not as much as they seem if you look around. i only paid like 430$ shipped for my setup. then the spec v rear brembo upgrade was around 110$ for rotors and max carriers.

SgtDGun
May 08, 11, 11:28 AM
Would the maxi rear upgrade be worth it.

I think I misunderstood this. you mean the A32 Max brackets and Sentra rotors?

89rodknocker
May 08, 11, 03:01 PM
I think I misunderstood this. you mean the A32 Max brackets and Sentra rotors?

Yes.

89rodknocker
May 08, 11, 03:16 PM
Will i need to mod the sentra rotor or is it a direct fit.

I was thinking then maybe braided lines, good rotors and ebc green or should i use yellows?

SgtDGun
May 08, 11, 04:24 PM
rear is direct fit.

G20dream
May 08, 11, 05:24 PM
Yellow are more aggressive sometime some noise can be expected

89rodknocker
May 08, 11, 10:23 PM
I see you guys are heading more towards the yellows but this is a daily driver. I just want more braking power avail. Is there that much difference in the performance of the green and yellow.

00 blk G20t
May 09, 11, 06:46 AM
to be honest i think you can do better than ebc pads. they are only OK to me. they are very dusty yet they try to fool you and be like "theres absolutely no dust with these pads." (when used in conjunction with our overpriced rotors.)

RIGHTAWAY
May 09, 11, 08:48 AM
i was thinking of using hawk pads and upgraded front rotors. are them brembo blanks on ebay a good bet? i would like to upgrade to 4 piston calipers but they cost to much. you would think that another nissan would bolt right up.

SgtDGun
May 09, 11, 09:36 AM
the larger nissan rotors are 5 lug, most of them will bolt right up, but they also went to a thicker mounting bolt from the bracket to the car. so other than the 4 bolt sentra spec V brembo. you will have to make modifications.

P11Gdub
May 09, 11, 01:43 PM
the rear brembo sentra rotors and a32 brackets is the cheapest rear setup. adds about an inch and brings the rears up to the same size as the stock frontsooh if someone does this, please take pics. i need to upgrade my rears, too.

00 blk G20t
May 09, 11, 04:08 PM
ooh if someone does this, please take pics. i need to upgrade my rears, too.

i did mine, i have some pics of rotor on rotor so you can "see" the upgrade.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/otpteg/bremborear.jpg?t=1304979040

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/otpteg/painting.jpg?t=1304979110
................................... ...........................P11 rotors on top here^ spec v on bottom.

4Aaron GE
May 09, 11, 06:25 PM
So that's:

Sentra SE-R Spec V rotor
A32 Maxima bracket
What caliper? A32 as well?

P11Gdub
May 09, 11, 06:44 PM
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj8/otpteg/painting.jpg?t=1304979110
double scissor jacks for extra safety?

RIGHTAWAY
May 09, 11, 07:04 PM
are the spec v rotors better than the brembo blanks? are the a32 caliper dual piston?

akuma810
May 09, 11, 07:09 PM
So that's:

Sentra SE-R Spec V rotor
A32 Maxima bracket
What caliper? A32 as well?

Stock caliper, this just moves the caliper out for better torque leverage

mike: trade you the rear brackets for the homelink

00 blk G20t
May 09, 11, 07:20 PM
it gives another 20mm of rotor. its not alot but if you have brembos up front with stock p11 brakes under heavy braking it feels like the back end wants to slide out. upgrading the rear corrects it amazing well. since i upgraded the rear as well the car feels great under heavy braking, very centered like it should be.

00 blk G20t
May 09, 11, 07:30 PM
double scissor jacks for extra safety?

yeah something like that i guess. i only had a 3/8 drive so i couldnt get the leverage of bigger one and i couldnt really fit my cheater pipe so i banged on the carrier bolts with that 5lb mini sledge hammer on 3/8 drive. :naughty: after i hit it the first time with the hammer and watched the single jack flex i figured adding a second jack was a good idea since i did have that.

SgtDGun
May 09, 11, 07:34 PM
yep stock g20 caliper. just need rotors and brackets. I got my brackets at the u pull for $4

4Aaron GE
May 09, 11, 11:15 PM
Stock caliper, this just moves the caliper out for better torque leverage

mike: trade you the rear brackets for the homelink

Would it be beneficial to use the A32 caliper as well?

00 blk G20t
May 09, 11, 11:53 PM
Would it be beneficial to use the A32 caliper as well?

they are the same caliper so no...it wouldn't.

hey fullah the 95 -99 max is the same my rear caliper was frozen and I used one from my 96 max which I'm parting out

however the B15 w/brembo package rear caliper( not a gold brembo caliper though) is considered a upgrade to the p11/max caliper but good luck finding them and they are not that much better. they also bolt up like stock p11 ones for the ebrake lines to be correct.(the reason most upgrades are out of the question.)

akuma810
May 09, 11, 11:54 PM
0 benefits, unless your current caliper is siezed, its actually more of a hassle since youll need to bleed your brakes if you change the caliper.

4Aaron GE
May 10, 11, 07:08 PM
Woah woah woah... so you're saying a 1997 Maxima will have the EXACT same caliper as my 1999 P11?

If so, you've just made my life a TON easier!

akuma810
May 10, 11, 07:32 PM
indeed my friend

4Aaron GE
May 10, 11, 07:52 PM
Damn. If I'm ever in your end of the continent, I owe you guys a beer.

SgtDGun
May 10, 11, 09:31 PM
1999 G20 rear
http://extranet.soleniuminc.com/CentricParts/Inquiry/..%5Cpart_images%5C14142554.jpg
1997 maxima rear
http://extranet.soleniuminc.com/CentricParts/Inquiry/..%5Cpart_images%5C14142546.jpg

SgtDGun
May 10, 11, 09:40 PM
cars that used the same rear brake pad
INFINITI G20 (1991 - 2000)
INFINITI G20 T (1994 - 1996)
INFINITI I30 (1996 - 2000)
NISSAN ALTIMA (1998 - 2001)
NISSAN ALTIMA GLE (1993 - 1997)
NISSAN ALTIMA GXE (1993 - 1997)
NISSAN ALTIMA SE (1993 - 1997)
NISSAN ALTIMA XE (1993 - 1997)
NISSAN MAXIMA (1990 - 2000)
NISSAN MAXIMA GLE (1995 - 1998)
NISSAN MAXIMA GXE (1994 - 1998)
NISSAN MAXIMA SE (1992 - 1998)
NISSAN SENTRA (2000 - 2001)

front pads
INFINITI G20 (1999 - 2002)
INFINITI G20 T 2002
INFINITI I30 (1996 - 1999)
NISSAN ALTIMA (1993 - 2001)
NISSAN ALTIMA GLE (1993 - 1997)
NISSAN ALTIMA GXE (1993 - 1997)
NISSAN ALTIMA SE (1993 - 1997)
NISSAN ALTIMA XE (1993 - 1997)
NISSAN MAXIMA (1989 - 1999)
NISSAN MAXIMA GLE (1995 - 1998)
NISSAN MAXIMA GXE (1992 - 1998)
NISSAN MAXIMA SE (1992 - 1998)
NISSAN SENTRA (2000 - 2004)
NISSAN SENTRA LIMITED EDITION 2003
NISSAN SENTRA SE-R (2002 - 2006)
SUZUKI SX4 2008
SUZUKI SX4 JLX 2008
SUZUKI SX4 JX 2008
SUZUKI SX4 SPORT 2008

you can see more here
http://extranet.soleniuminc.com/centricparts/

and here
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php

blankman3
May 11, 11, 06:33 PM
cheapest upgrade is good pads and braided lines with some good fluid.
^ yep

Since the car weighs a bit less than 3000 lbs bigger calipers aren't necessary. Good for looks and stopping power but bigger means more added weight as well. This may affect handling.

Why not keep the stock calipers and just switch out the crucial things. Higher friction pads, slotted or drilled vented rotors , steel braided lines, and good brake fluid (synthetic). These things will drastically improve stopping power over stock. Just an alternative to messing around trying to swap in bigger set up that may not even clear your rims :cheeky:

DaMasterPNut
May 12, 11, 04:04 AM
Little bit offtopic. When having S14 calipers on the P11 MC without ABS, what MC could you use to get a better pedal feel/travel? Plug 'n play?

trbobrk
May 12, 11, 11:51 AM
What size MC does your car have? I thought the euro primera GT came with 1" already.

zerosin
May 30, 11, 06:42 PM
FWIW. Hawk HPS pads with Brembo blanks is a very nice combo on the P11 for daily driving. Very little dust for how much stopping power you get, and you get plenty. Pretty hard to make them fade (haven't yet) and they don't need to warm up first.