Quick cheap HP

[Myinfinitig20]

Hey i'm kinda new to the whole car thing. I'm 17years old, i have a brand new 2002 g20 sports edition. I love the car to death but yea it's a lil on the slow slide, which is a problem for me cuz i love to race. I don't have a job so i'm on a limited budget but i still want to add around 25- 50 hp without voiding my warrenty.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
thanks for your time
nick

[NismoPC]

Originally posted by Myinfinitig20
I don't have a job so i'm on a limited budget but i still want to add around 25- 50 hp without voiding my warrenty.


How'd you score that at 17? :confused:

Anyhow, for starters, 25-50HP for cheap and quickly? Don't think so.

But for starters, look into advanced timing, CAI.

You have the roller rocker engine so I am not very familiar with it. The first year and the last year for that engine if I am not mistaken. Last of the G20's and last of the SR20's my friend. Atleast in the US!

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by NismoPC
The first year and the last year for that engine if I am not mistaken.
You are, 2000 was the first year.

Anyway how cheep is cheep to you? 25hp-50hp with out NOS or turbo is not cheep. Even then NOS would be your best bet. If you're looking for something a little more 'on demand' then you'll need header, intake, exhaust, pullies and cams to be close to +25-30hp at the wheels. That will run you under a couple grand plus installation.

[NismoPC]

Originally posted by NismoPC

The first year and the last year for that engine if I am not mistaken.


Originally posted by G-Forces

You are, 2000 was the first year.

WELL DAMN! :evil:

OK, per an email:

He is looking to spend $1,000 or less and get the most power for his money. Your list looks like it will get him off to a really good start!!!!!!

Hell, some of those things need to be on mine. Now if I could just get the money and do it.=)

[b-b00gie]

For $1000 I would get a HS CAI, Unorthodox 2 pulley set, HS header, quick shifter aka "short shifter".


The CAI, pullies and header together should get you 25whp. The short shifter (buy a real one, dont cut yours, thats not how it works.) will help you with your shifting speed a whole bunch.



Next step I would suggest would be JWT's new roller rocker cams and a cat-back exhaust.

[JustinP10]

CAI, Header, pullies, timing, lightened flywheel, and clutch netted me 141 hp to the wheels. That's about 15-25hp over stock, depending on what your car puts down stock. That's a very noticeable difference right there.

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by b-b00gie
The CAI, pullies and header together should get you 25whp.
That's a little optomistic IMO. Take it from someone who's spent some time at the dyno and seen various SR in different states of most. You usually need cams of some sort to get over that 25hp mark. 15whp is more like it with those mods. You'll definitely notice the difference.

[G-Forces]

Don't know why I never thought of this before. George would call this 'trivia' but I think it gives a good idea of what you can expect from different combos of mods.

http://www.se-r.net/car_info/dyno/dyno_day_1999.html

The cars state of tune plays a big part in the amount of power put down too. So take those numbers with a grain of salt.

[Myinfinitig20]

Hey thanks for responding,
Will these upgrades, CAI, Header, Pullies, void my warrenty?

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by Myinfinitig20
Hey thanks for responding,
Will these upgrades, CAI, Header, Pullies, void my warrenty?
The US has passed some law, with the help of SEMA, that states it will void any parts that break down in realation to the modification. So if you lower the car they can't deny your motor warrenty claim. The part has to be responsible for the break down to void it.

In short yes and no. They might hassle you and try and get out of it if say your water pump goes early. Talk to your main dealership before hand. They might be cool about it. Mine was. If they aren't shop around till you find one that won't give you much hassle.

[nuthn2luz]

If you wanted "cheap speed", ya should have just gotten a mustang or camero. As for the warranty if you decide to put on bolt ons, I haven't had any problems with the dealers. I have 85000 on my G with intake header exhaust, and a clutch. My motor blew a 1000 miles ago, and was replaced at no charge with no hassle directly from Infiniti North America. The way it works is that the dealership gets paid by Infiniti so they most of the time will go the extra mile for you. They don't get paid as much as customer out of pocket, but it still supplies them with business.

[Myinfinitig20]

alright so basically it will only void the warrenty of the part i'm replacing, so if i change the exhaust and my engine blows up likes yours did then they're not going to say "i dont' think so" when i go and ask them for a new engine.

[JustinP10]

Originally posted by nuthn2luz
If you wanted "cheap speed", ya should have just gotten a mustang or camero. As for the warranty if you decide to put on bolt ons, I haven't had any problems with the dealers. I have 85000 on my G with intake header exhaust, and a clutch. My motor blew a 1000 miles ago, and was replaced at no charge with no hassle directly from Infiniti North America. The way it works is that the dealership gets paid by Infiniti so they most of the time will go the extra mile for you. They don't get paid as much as customer out of pocket, but it still supplies them with business.

But that's not always the case... I went to the local Infiniti dealer (in Phoenix) and asked them to check something out (EGR stuff) a while back and they didn't want to because of my mods. The eventually did, but they said that it could be the mods affecting it (which it wasn't). BTW, this was on my old black G20, if you remember that one. I'm not sure everyone would have the same luck you did.

[nuthn2luz]

There is a high likelihood of the matter being at the dealerships discression. In my case, I have the aebs 4-1 header with the o2 sensor located at the bottom. Of course I had to extend the wires a mere foot in order for the wires to reach. This is the same header that was installed when my engine went to sr20land. It could be that I just got a good service advisor. As for intake or exhaust you will not run into problem if the product was designed for your vehicle and installed properly. Justin- did you take your G to Infiniti of Scottsdale? that's where I usually take mine.

[JustinP10]

Originally posted by nuthn2luz
Justin- did you take your G to Infiniti of Scottsdale? that's where I usually take mine.

Yeah, that's where i had the issue, probalby about 2 years ago. They didn't want to work on my car because of the modifications, and when i told them that it wasn't related to the mods, and that the egr was malfunctioning, they said they'd look at it, all they could come back with was that it was related to the modifications. It was not related to that at all, but those monkey's couldn't look past the mods.
I have the exact same intake and header on this car, and it passed emissions with flying colors, WAY below the limit. Go figure. Who did you talk to there? I need to have someone look at my A/C, I have it narrowed down to the compressor, but i'm not 100% sure, so i need to take it to someone ACK! before it starts to get too hot, and i actually need to run the A/C. That's gonna suck. I'll just tell them i'll provide the parts (like the A/C Compressor). I know it's not just the freon too, as i've already filled it and that didn't help at all. :(

[nuthn2luz]

My service advisor over there is Stacey Moore. He's helped me with my car for the past 3 years and has never ripped me off. Tell me when you are going to head up there. I can meet ya, and maybe he could hook ya up? He might just let you pay him under the counter. twoo2go@aol.com

[nuthn2luz]

I am not an expert in the a/c department by any means, however my a/c was blowing not as cool as regular a bit ago. Infiniti scottsdale checked for leaks and found that a hose was crimped. YOu may wanna just check to see that the lines look good before you replace anything.

[2002-G-Sport]

I have a 2002 sport 5-speed I put on a jwt pop and advanced the timing and I can feel the difference just from that

[2002-G-Sport]

and it only cost me $100

[2002-G-Sport]

Ihave a 2002 sport 5-speed for cheap I put ajwt pop on and advanced the timing cost me $100 and I can feel the difference

[Myinfinitig20]

i have an automatic = (

[JustinP10]

Originally posted by Myinfinitig20
i have an automatic = (

Advanced timing still helps. If you're timing is really low, advancing it might even gain you back some low end power... worst case you get better throttle response. I know in my old auto G, advanced timing made a nice difference, but it might have been pretty low to start with too, I forget it's been so long.

[Cue-Ball]

Originally posted by G-Forces
Don't know why I never thought of this before. George would call this 'trivia' but I think it gives a good idea of what you can expect from different combos of mods.

http://www.se-r.net/car_info/dyno/dyno_day_1999.html

The cars state of tune plays a big part in the amount of power put down too. So take those numbers with a grain of salt.

How in the hell does Mike Kojima put down such huge numbers (176HP/158 torque) from a N/A engine? His listed mods don't seem out of the ordinary. I'm guessing that he's got some extensive port work done or something?

Mind boggling.

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by Cue-Ball


How in the hell does Mike Kojima put down such huge numbers (176HP/158 torque) from a N/A engine?

Mind boggling.
Not really if you knew that he had an 11.4:1 compression motor with a stage VI DPR head work and just about every damn thing you can think of doing on a N/A motor done. :D George build something like that a while ago. Blew it up real good. ;)

[JustinP10]

Originally posted by G-Forces

Not really if you knew that he had an 11.4:1 compression motor with a stage VI DPR head work and just about every damn thing you can think of doing on a N/A motor done. :D George build something like that a while ago. Blew it up real good. ;)

The bummer now is that you can get the same results for a fraction of the price with a SR20VE motor :-\

[digital_g20]

try goin to tornadoair.com, it's bout 70 bucks and adds a max of 15hp plus it increases your mpg. its the best i can do.

[Myinfinitig20]

what do you guyz think about tornado air?

[morbert]

looks like a gimmick to me....I'd save my money for an cai instead

[Cue-Ball]

The Tornado is not worth a dime. Save your money.

FYI: All you guys who advance your timing - Keep in mind that you now have to run premium gasoline. So, you're paying ~$0.20 extra per gallon for a <5HP gain. Just something to think about.

[NismoPC]

Originally posted by Myinfinitig20
what do you guyz think about tornado air?

digital_g20 was kidding.

Weren't you?

That thing is a big smelly pile of pew! Waste your money on food. At least you didn't flush it down the toilet and you know you were satisifed after you spent $70 on food and ate it all!

[MR. RYTE]

Originally posted by Myinfinitig20
what do you guyz think about tornado air?

The 10 answers to the questions you don't wanna ask on the SE-R mailing list.

by Kit Wetzler

1. CAI intakes work.

2. Greddy, Borla and Edlebrock mufflers are quiet and flow ok. Dynomax SuperTurbos are cheap. Ultraflos and sebrings are loud, but flow well.

3. Ignitions don't produce much on SE-Rs, besides possibly a smoother engine.

4. Prolong, Duralube, Slick50, etc. don't work.

5. Don't use injector cleaner on SR20DEs.

6. Tornados don't work.
6. Tornados don't work.
6. Tornados don't work.

7. Nissan recommends 5w30 weight oil in 91-94 SR20DEs. Regular Oil is good, Synthetic oil is better. If you don't hear what your car sounds like at 7000rpm, at least once a week, you don't need synthetic oil.

8. Arguably, headers give you the most gain of any bolt on modification. Hotshot headers are good, Stillen headers are good. Hotshot headers do tend to make a rattle noise at 4000rpm.

9. The *HIGH* port head is the 91-93, the *LOW* port head is the 94+... actual cutoff date is unknown. If your throttle body is up high, you have a *LOW* port head, if your throttle body is lower and close to the firewall, you have a *HIGH* port head.

10. Have you checked SE-R.net?

The above info was retrieved through this link:http://www.se-r.net/getting_started.html

[digital_g20]

there's no other way to get 15 hp or more any other way. if there is then say it.

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by digital_g20
there's no other way to get 15 hp or more any other way. if there is then say it.
The tornado is a crock of shit and I'll stand by that claim until someone does some dyno testing on a SR20DE and proves me wrong. The other ways you can get 15 easy hp at the wheels are with a HS header and HS CAI. There you have an extra REAL 15hp. :p

[digital_g20]

aight man chill out, the kid was on a budget that's all.

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by digital_g20
aight man chill out, the kid was on a budget that's all.
Dude I'm so chill I frickin ice! :cool:

[WTB_95G20t]

My smart-ass reply but with some truth:

Sell your '02 G20 and buy a 99 Integra Type-R with 190HP.

Like someone else mentioned, if you want cheap HP get a Mustang. But if you want a quick, reliable, comfortable, good mpg, great handling sedan hang on to your G20. Replace the stock parts with high performance parts as they wear out. FYI: under body light kits do not add ANY horsepower.

[InfinitiG20]

wat r some good websites tht u can look up info an as well as some body kits an ground effects on da 2002 infiniti G20????

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by InfinitiG20
wat r some good websites tht u can look up info an as well as some body kits an ground effects on da 2002 infiniti G20????
Ok you only have to ask a question ONCE!!!!!! If I see anymore of this I'll start deleting your spam! :angry: Then and if it continues you'll be put on probation!

[JustinP10]

Originally posted by G-Forces

The tornado is a crock of shit and I'll stand by that claim until someone does some dyno testing on a SR20DE and proves me wrong. The other ways you can get 15 easy hp at the wheels are with a HS header and HS CAI. There you have an extra REAL 15hp. :p

If anyone wants to supply me with a Tornado i'll throw it on my car on the dyno next time I'm there (it'll be soon). I'll put money down that it's a restriction and I lose power. =) Oh yeah, one slight catch.... whoever sends it to me has to pay for a new motor or rebuild when the little fan blades break off and go flying into my engine and destroy it. :confused: =)

[InfinitiG20]

ok nobody still answered my question yet war r some good websites for modifying dis car???

[G-Forces]

Originally posted by InfinitiG20
ok nobody still answered my question yet war r some good websites for modifying dis car???
yo here dis site be da bomb B! yo kin tri se-r.net j0! or maybee http://www.g20.net/g20links.html

g00d luk j0! w3rD! :alien: