Not sure what section to post this, so I'll post it here...

As I've mentioned in a couple of threads, I recently got a consult interface and software from Australia...

Pete now has a webpage up for details....including prices

http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/consult_if.htm

Kev Shek has tried this on an Almera, not sure if he's tried it on Skymera yet, and I've tried it on my Primera P10.... :thumbsup:




Here is the interface...

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v47/markbuts3/Screenshots/interface.jpg

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v47/markbuts3/Car/consultopen.jpg




With the software you can monitor just about everything...

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v47/markbuts3/Screenshots/gauges2.jpg

read and reset codes

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v47/markbuts3/Screenshots/faultcodes.jpg

datalog to a csv file

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v47/markbuts3/Screenshots/logging.jpg

Active test, as well as putting the ECU in idle speed/timing mode

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v47/markbuts3/Screenshots/active_tests.jpg

Man that looks promising...I tried the N-probe on the 99 and we coundt get it to see the ecu since its OBDII, Im guessing this might have the same drawbacks...

But for the P10....and the price, holy crap!!! this is freaking sweet!!!

Whats the refresh rate on all them guages?

Originally posted by Yahnozha
Man that looks promising...I tried the N-probe on the 99 and we coundt get it to see the ecu since its OBDII, Im guessing this might have the same drawbacks...

But for the P10....and the price, holy crap!!! this is freaking sweet!!! For some reason the nprobe won't work on the 98 amd 99 ECU's. Ty's workin on it.

Originally posted by trbobrk
Whats the refresh rate on all them guages?

Very quick....no detectable delay....

Only dissapointing thing is the speed is in KMH and can't be changed to MPH....

Very interested!

Originally posted by dallas sr20
For some reason the nprobe won't work on the 98 amd 99 ECU's. Ty's workin on it.

Thats awesome...I really like the form factor of using the palm with that product...sorry for going OT...

bump........just so you guys don't miss this....;)

This works with ODBII??


- Greg -

Originally posted by MrFancypants
This works with ODBII??


- Greg -


Can't answer that one Greg, email Pete and ask him m8...

pl@curl.aunz.net

works on the Skymera just fine, but its is a OBD1 whereas the later G20s are 2 right?

Has anyone tried this on a OBDII car now?

I'll be all over this !!

For the DIY people... zcontrol.net sells a PCB board and has a parts list and instructions to make your own.

Oh COOL!!! I am going to get this just for the timing mode thing and ECU code reader! Thanks for posting this Mark. Im gonna send you a PM.

does anyone know if that Zcontrol.net stuff works with OBDII?....cause i am really tempted to build my own, but if it wont even work what is the point.

Originally posted by Madmike1029
does anyone know if that Zcontrol.net stuff works with OBDII?....cause i am really tempted to build my own, but if it wont even work what is the point.

Do you have a consult port ???

possibly...where would it be located?....i know i have this extra port thing right in the fuse area....and then there is the OBDII i beleive under the dash below the fuses....

Originally posted by Madmike1029
possibly...where would it be located?....i know i have this extra port thing right in the fuse area....and then there is the OBDII i beleive under the dash below the fuses....


That's the thing. I have heard that some early OBDII cars had the consult port as well. After looking on a P11-144 we couldn't find one... :confused:

Your's may be different...

The best place to ask is probably on sr20forum.....Calum and Chris are very knowledgeable on the subject...

http://www.sr20forum.com/showthread.php?t=68821&page=10&pp=20

Originally posted by markbuts3



That's the thing. I have heard that some early OBDII cars had the consult port as well. After looking on a P11-144 we couldn't find one... :confused:

Your's may be different...

The best place to ask is probably on sr20forum.....Calum and Chris are very knowledgeable on the subject...

http://www.sr20forum.com/showthread.php?t=68821&page=10&pp=2 0


interestting, well i took a look at the port in the fuse area, and it looks like it would fit right into one of those consult connects (on one of those sites i saw a pic of the connector)....so maybe it is. for like 30 bucks or so.....not too bad to test it out.....might be fun in the process

There is a pic of the connector in the first post of this thread... ;)

Anyone use OBDII software? Please recommend a good one, because I'm looking to buy something to use with my laptop.

I know Darren (Kango_V) has the software and interface. He isn't on here much though..

the consult is the shit man i cannot thanks Mark_bust3 enough.

one question what the the injector and ducty cycle measure in voltage?

And this shit DATA logs too thats a bonus i was not counting on.


trini

Originally posted by trinispeed
the consult is the shit man i cannot thanks Mark_bust3 enough.

one question what the the injector and ducty cycle measure in voltage?

And this shit DATA logs too thats a bonus i was not counting on.


trini


iirc (as I can't look cause of my laptop :*( ) the injector is time in milliseconds so isn't a voltage measurement, and the duty cycle is a percentage of the maximum time they could be open for at that particular RPM....

Afaik neither can be measured without the use of the interface or an oscilloscope or expensive multimeter....

thanks bro, i will post up some graphs soon


trini

Originally posted by markbuts3
There is a pic of the connector in the first post of this thread... ;)


that must of been where i saw it then..lol. well it looks like it would connect to the plug that is in where my fuses are

Hi!

I was woundering if you know how to find out what connector I have.
Looked in my car and I found a 14-pin connector not 16.

Also if anyone knows if it has a CAN-bus.?

//me

A 1998 Euro Primera should still be OBD-I and just have a consult connector like the one shown at the top of this page..The Euro Primera didn't change to OBD-II until 1999...


Yours on left, OBD-II on right....

Hey!

Have you got a wiringscheme for the ciruitboard?

//Me

how much is all this going to be?

Hey!

Have you got a wiringscheme for the ciruitboard?

//Me
Check Pete's site out...

http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/consult_if.shtml

has nayone tried the ebay version of this product? It looks like the same exact idea, just for usb...cheaper...?

I have a similar device from OZ, although with a screen.

It works just dandy on my OBDII 1996 P10's consult port.
Nothing like watching the duty cycle of your injectors & MAF voltage at full throttle :)

has nayone tried the ebay version of this product? It looks like the same exact idea, just for usb...cheaper...?
It'll be the one from Blatz.biz

btw, that sig pic is too big reduce it to 500x200 max or it will be removed :)

The site you refer to doesnt have the wiringscheme, you have to buy the circuitboard.
Look near the top and click the link that says 'Consult Interface schematic diagram PDF'




DIY Information

If you'd prefer to build your own here are some details to get you started. Information is provided for personal (NON-PROFIT) use only.

* Protocol PDF - Updated to Issue 6
* Generic Nissan ECU data register table PDF
* Consult Interface schematic diagram PDF - Rev 4

Please don't ask for further information - any updates will be posted here.

If you can't find that on the page :shifty: then here's the link.... http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/images_if/consult_if_rev4.pdf

Is there anything similar for the OBD-II

I can get handheld testers, they work on obd2, eobd ect. It is compatible with ISO, VPW and PWM standard.
ISO - for most cars: European, Asian, Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, Ford and General Motors
VPW - for General Motors, Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, Toyota and Isuzu
PWM - for Ford

You can monitor various parameters of the car, check and clear DTC's ect.

They aren't cheap though, expected price is 400 euro.

I also ordered ona at plmsdevelopments.com. It sould be here in a week or so. Can't wait to try it.

I ordered the Blatz.biz unit last week and the latest Nissan Datascan software. Can't wait to get started as well! =)

how much is that in US Dollars?

For the hardware I paid like $90 shipped and the software which is Datascan 1.51 for another twenty bucks. Well worth the price, from what I hear all the time!

Have they upgraded the software ?

Yea it's on version 1.5 now Carlos.

http://home.curl.aunz.net/tpkolo/DataScan.htm

You can download it from there but you must be on the registered user's list to be able to get a verification code. If you didn't get the email telling you about it then you need to get in touch with Tom through the email address in the help-about screen and tell him about it. All the guys on the GB I did were missed off and I had to speak with Tom about it.

Here's the email I received..



Hello,

Nissan Data Scan version 1.5 is now available. The new software version can be downloaded from: http://home.curl.aunz.net/tpkolo/Registration.htm

New features and bug fixes in Revision 1.5:
. Keyboard shortcut keys for all functions
. Use of Escape key for exiting functions
. Modified log record structure - accurate timer column
. User customizable xx-xx Speed Test option
. Automatically generated unique log file name
. Log file settings retention
. Invalid port number error handler
. New Data Replay function - replays NDS log files
. New Dashboard function - two gauge data display window with RPM and Speed alerts
. New Log Analyzer function - simple NDS log file analyzer
. Software copy protection


Software Registration
An Activation Code is required to unlock the Nissan Data Scan software. Only paid registered users will be able to activate the software.

To register the software:
. Go to the Software Activation form, enter your name, e-mail address and click on the Generate Code button. A User Registration Code will be generated.
. Right click on the User Registration Code and Copy the code.
. Paste the code to the first line of e-mail body and send it to nissandatascan@curl.com.au from an e-mail account provided at the time of purchase.
Note: Please do not attempt to type in the Registration Code as you will make a mistake. Do not add any other information to the first line of your e-mail. This is an automated service and no one is going to read the message.
. An Activation Key will be send in a reply e-mail. Copy and Paste the key to the Software Activation form, click the Unlock button.
. Restart the Nissan Data Scan software. You should now have unrestricted use of the software.


Regards,
Tom

Grrrr, my e-mail is not the same as it was when I bought the software, the server has change it's domail. I'm E-mailing Tom.

There's a version 5.11 for those with Unicode characters.

I'm gonna have to do a trip up to Butts'ville to have a squint at one of these ;)

JM angles for a invite :naughty:

Lol, I don't have a working laptop at the moment :*(

Lol, I don't have a working laptop at the moment :*(

Well sell one of your children, wives, girlfriends & get one :lol:

Failing that I'll park my Prim in ya lounge :beard:

i just ordered my consult/interface from Pete at PMLS....hopefully it will be here in about a week (coming from Australia)

Grrrr, my e-mail is not the same as it was when I bought the software, the server has change it's domail. I'm E-mailing Tom.

There's a version 5.11 for those with Unicode characters.

I've had the same problem, but they fixed that for me. Don't think it would be a problem to get it changed.

Luppo

so does this work with the 00+ g's???

Nope not as far as I know...

why not tho???? i have a consult port....& it says it works for the newer sentras...???

Best bet is to see if anyone near you has one so you can test it.

I think the consult protocol changed, hence why you need to use a Consult-II on later cars.

not trying to be too far offtopic, but does anyone happen to know anything about that zcontrol.net they used to have pcb boards so you could make your own interface but seems they stopped compleltly. anyone know of anywhere else to get the
PCBs from? i would much rather try my hand at building one since i am getting into the whole electrical soldering stuff.

Pete has the schematics on his site....

I found this (http://users.bigpond.net.au/newkleer/diyconsult/) but can't find a price or how to order.

I want to know what software this is...it's skinnable OpenGL :)

Pete has the schematics on his site....

I found this (http://users.bigpond.net.au/newkleer/diyconsult/) but can't find a price or how to order.

I want to know what software this is...it's skinnable OpenGL :)

thanx man, wish i could find a way to contact him to see how to order or where to get the parts. and that software does look pretty sweet

I wonder if Calum on sr20forum sells the Consult boards ??

I wonder if Calum on sr20forum sells the Consult boards ??
well i PMed him a day or two about it, haven't gotten a reply. still dont understand how a site talking about "what the kit includes" has no information on where it came from.

I want something to play with and build!..lol

It's probably a frames page with more info, but I can't find the homepage so can't find all the other pages on the site. I just found it via Google.

It's probably a frames page with more info, but I can't find the homepage so can't find all the other pages on the site. I just found it via Google.

ya possibly, i looked at the source code and that didn't help at all. stupid google, should have links to main pages too..lol

well i managed to track down where those instructions for the DIY consult are from/for:
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=92853

down side is that it located in aus, wish that other place was still active and all since it was cheap to get the PCB board from there.

also, i am not sure if this has been posted b4, but I came across this too at that site:
http://www.blazt.biz/

anyone have an idea on how would one go about getting a pcb printed, and where could I find out what exactly i need to do for the pcb for this consult? if it simple enough, and I can get like a schematic for it i will try my hand on my own maybe.

Nice find :thumbsup: Shipping from Aus isn't expensive though if he has any left, Pete charges AU$10 domestic and AU$16 international air for his interfaces.
Still nothing from Calum ??

I've seen the blazt site before (Tom has a link on the Datascan site), I have mentioned it once..... http://www.g20.net/forum/showpost.php?p=455939&postcount=16

Nice find :thumbsup: Shipping from Aus isn't expensive though if he has any left, Pete charges AU$10 domestic and AU$16 international air for his interfaces.
Still nothing from Calum ??

I've seen the blazt site before (Tom has a link on the Datascan site), I have mentioned it once..... http://www.g20.net/forum/showpost.php?p=455939&postcount=16

thanx, ya still no word from calum-not sure if i wanna pm him again (dont wanna be annoying..lol). i might post on that one forum and see if he has anymore left, but from the last post's on the thread i doubt he does.

when i do my ve swap will the consult still work for me... thanks dont wanna buy it now and then have it not work later...

bump.... anyone....

when i do my ve swap will the consult still work for me... thanks dont wanna buy it now and then have it not work later...

i think it would, as long as u have the consult interface set up. the VEs are OBD1 anyways and it seems the only OBD2 car that may have the normal consult(not consult2) is the 99 P11

So has anyone found out yet if this truly works for an OBD II p10 (my '94). I'd love to find something else I can spend money on for my new laptop. This looks like a really good purchase if it actually works for our cars. If nothing else I'd be happy enough to just look at all the gauges that show up. haha

Yup it work... I use it in my '94 daily.

Daily? what are you doing with it on a daily basis. I want so badly to buy it but I can't really think of what I can do with it to make it worth the money.

TIA

I want to buy this but I need someone to sell me on it. Sounds silly I know, but it's true ... so, anyone?

It can really help searcing problems, checking fault codes and it has a datalogging feature too. It also comes in handy setting base idle and base ignition timing. Just get it and you'll have a fun toy to play with, can't go wrong with it ;) .

Luppo

does anyone know if this will work properly with a 1999 Primera GT (High Port RR SR20DE), i am not sure if this is OBD1 or OBD2.
thanks

It's a low port Nick ;)

And yes it works on UK P11s, Kev had it in Skymera, G has it for his mystic etc......

cool, its between this and the blazt. ideally i need USB, but i like the idea of being able to get into Timing mode at click of a button etc!

and i always thought i had a high port! learn something everyday:)

The Blazt interface comes with the same software from Tom so it does exactly the same...

http://home.curl.aunz.net/tpkolo/DataScan.htm

well i managed to track down where those instructions for the DIY consult are from/for:
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=92853

down side is that it located in aus, wish that other place was still active and all since it was cheap to get the PCB board from there.

dam google! as you can see, the diyconsult thing was for a group buy i did of consult interfaces on SAU. since then ive been busy with other stuff (most can be found on http://www.ecutalk.com), such as consult software, and just recently, a consult lcd display (with integrated consult interface).

i might look at getting some interfaces made up again at some point, though i think every consult 1 car should have one of my lcd displays rather than lug around a laptop! (although that means i need time to build them, and a 50+ waiting list in aus alone means ive got a lot of work ahead)

if im cool enough, in future i might add a module to log data to memory card or something to that effect, as thats probably the only remaining reason why ud want a laptop in ur car rather than just the display

ive also done by bit for the environment by making my pocket pc (and normal laptop) consult software free

So ConsultII isn't available? I have a 00 G20.

dam google! as you can see, the diyconsult thing was for a group buy i did of consult interfaces on SAU. since then ive been busy with other stuff (most can be found on http://www.ecutalk.com), such as consult software, and just recently, a consult lcd display (with integrated consult interface).

i might look at getting some interfaces made up again at some point, though i think every consult 1 car should have one of my lcd displays rather than lug around a laptop! (although that means i need time to build them, and a 50+ waiting list in aus alone means ive got a lot of work ahead)

if im cool enough, in future i might add a module to log data to memory card or something to that effect, as thats probably the only remaining reason why ud want a laptop in ur car rather than just the display

ive also done by bit for the environment by making my pocket pc (and normal laptop) consult software free

hey welcome to the forum! Ya i was reading through your posts on some of those forums, you have done quite a bit, rather talented. I would love to built my own consult reader (i dont mind the laptop and all since i would only be using it once in a while). is there any way that there is a schematic of some sort where i could creat my own PCB or any way to build my own in some form another. Since all the other components i can find, it is the board itself that is the problem right now.


So ConsultII isn't available? I have a 00 G20.

This would be interesting too, i would love to get some form of consultII interface, but in all my research i have not been able to find anything of the like, i guess it is too new or somthing.

consult2 costs too much for anyone to be able to buy one solely to learn how it works.

the closest youll get to a PCB design is the output i created for it here:
http://www.ecutalk.com/diyconsult/pcb.ps (postscript file). if you know what you're doing, you can etch your own pcb from this. otherwise u need to rely on buying them from people who've got them manufactured themselves.

when i get the time i could probably get some more made that i could post overseas, probably for around $10USD all up (as one can fit in envelope)

consult2 costs too much for anyone to be able to buy one solely to learn how it works.

the closest youll get to a PCB design is the output i created for it here:
http://www.ecutalk.com/diyconsult/pcb.ps (postscript file). if you know what you're doing, you can etch your own pcb from this. otherwise u need to rely on buying them from people who've got them manufactured themselves.

when i get the time i could probably get some more made that i could post overseas, probably for around $10USD all up (as one can fit in envelope)

thanx for the info! Ya if you ever had the chance to get some more made, I know i would more than likely be interested, as well as there should be others too. Thanx for that postscript file too. I will see what i can do on my own, always like to learn new things.

ECUTalk v1.2 - http://www.ecutalk.com/

Combined Standard and Pocket PC versions into the single unified executable (single .exe also), based off the last Pocket PC release.

Added auto connect back in - it will connect on the given com port, select the sensors, and view gauges fullscreen on startup (after its set up).

Added in injector duty cycle % sensors, and added MPH and degrees F sensors (for speed/temp).

Left: Running on PC/Laptop
Right: Running on Pocket PC
http://www.ecutalk.com/images/ecutalk_v1.2_sensors.jpg

More screenshots: http://www.ecutalk.com/screenshots.aspx

ECUTalk v1.2 - http://www.ecutalk.com/

Combined Standard and Pocket PC versions into the single unified executable (single .exe also), based off the last Pocket PC release.

Added auto connect back in - it will connect on the given com port, select the sensors, and view gauges fullscreen on startup (after its set up).

Added in injector duty cycle % sensors, and added MPH and degrees F sensors (for speed/temp).

Left: Running on PC/Laptop
Right: Running on Pocket PC
http://www.ecutalk.com/images/ecutalk_v1.2_sensors.jpg

More screenshots: http://www.ecutalk.com/screenshots.aspx

nice, thanx for that info!

ECUTalk v1.3 Released - http://www.ecutalk.com


Added ability to log sensors without showing them on gauges (when logging is enabled, checkboxes have a greyed out checkstate, indicated logging only)
Logging changed so it logs all packets (only gauges will drop packets/not update when cpu is falling behind, but all packets will be logged)
Colour setup for gauges added. Hard bit for you is coming up with a colour theme that looks ok!
Added Instant Fuel Economy Sensor - requires RPM, Injector and Speed kph selected to work
Changed DutyCycle/RH Sensors to calculate values from RPM and Injector/RH sensors (therefore requires them to be logged at least to work)
Fixed Timestamps when milliseconds are less than 100 (3 digits). Previously they would not have leading zeroes
Simplified gauges such that they will only display values within their range (however, logging will show the calculated value) and will no longer auto change their range to suit the values (as occasionally a weird value may be read which causes a unco gauge to be drawn).
Added an option to allow the full-screen mode to only use the "working area" of the screen. Eg, it wont cover taskbar in a normal windows desktop, and for carpc users with special frontends, it may mean gauges display properly if running ECUTalk from within your frontend.
Improved the saving of settings to .ini file. Note that the order of items in this .ini file matters - their names (what is shown before the ":") does not. Eg autoconnect, logging, selected sensors, working area option, injector size, gauge colours, etc are all stored in here.
Removed EGT sensor (it's useless, only ever reads 4.98v)

See screenshots below to better understand difference between selecting sensors for gauges (batt, duty, econ, temp) which you check once, and for logging (rpm, injector, speed) which are checked a second time to make them grey. Also shown is how you can set the colour of the gauges yourself.

http://www.ecutalk.com/images/ecutalk_v1.3_sensors.jpghttp://www.ecutalk.com/images/ecutalk_v1.3_coloursetup.jpg

Very nice! I still need to make the interface itself.

I like it better like that :P

And my friends, numbers go high faster with KM/h ;) lol


Very quick....no detectable delay....

Only dissapointing thing is the speed is in KMH and can't be changed to MPH....

Didn't see it mentioned in the earlier pages, but someone's got an interface for OS X out as well. http://members.cox.net/~epooch/consultan/

As soon as I get my iBook back together and snag one of those USB interfaces, I'll have it up and running in the G =D

ecutalk v1.3.1 out with economy MPG for those who swing that way

I like it better like that :P

And my friends, numbers go high faster with KM/h ;) lol
That was an old version. Tom has added plenty of preferences now ;)

ECUTalk v1.3.2 Released - http://www.ecutalk.com

This version fixes a few bugs and has some pretty big performance improvements.
Users of v1.3 and v1.3.1 should update to this version.
v.1.3.1 added a MPG sensor for Imperial users (and an option to switch between Imperial/Metric sensors).

Fixed issue in v1.3 and v1.3.1 which meant data packets weren't being dropped when CPU couldn't keep up
Increased performance of gauge drawing by ~250% (on my PPC, time to draw a gauge went from ~30ms down to around ~12ms).
Changed code to always draw gauges (even if data hasnt changed) in order to result in consistent amount of packets being logged per second.
Added option to specify minimum gauge update speed - higher value means more packets are logged due to less gauge updates (and hence more time for logging). Eg on my 568 Jornada PocketPC 2002, 10ms = ~5 packets logged/second, whereas 1000ms = close to full 50 packets). The setting ignored when not logging (it will just update as quickly as possible).
Improved consult streaming to allow more data to be read in and processed (rather than lost). Probably the best program for data logging due to the sheer amount of data able to be read in. On my desktop PC, setting minimum gauge refresh to 0ms (ie never skip a gauge redraw, hence uses most CPU), can log 35 packets/second of all sensors. Setting minimum refresh to just 50ms gives the full 50 packets/second. I compared this to Nissan Datascan, which can only log 16 packets/second on the same PC (and thats without gauges shown at all) with the same sensors.
Changed options controls to dropdowns rather than textboxes (i didnt realise id disabled the use of the soft input panel on PPC, so you couldnt change settings). If you want to enter a value other than shown, edit the .ini file.
Fixed logging time output, both to add in the missing leading zeros (eg it would show 7:5:7 for 7:05:07), and also added in a interpolated millisecond value for PPC users (which doesnt have a millisecond capability in standard time object).
Minor changes to individual sensors to better display on gauges, and slight changes to change config (units shown next to sensor rather than down bottom as often the units would overlap gauge).
Added a hidden option for CarPC users with frontends (eg Centrafuse) to manually edit .ini file to set custom top/bottom/left/right co-ordinates for full-screen mode. Example: FullScreenBounds_L|T|R|B:10|20|1000 |900. Setting all to 0 will use default method.

edit: no more cables available

I've already got a laptop installed in my car, so this would be awesome.

ECUTalk v1.3.3 Beta 4 (2007-08-21 23:10:34) (http://www.ecutalk.com)

I've uploaded the 4th and most likely final beta build of ECUTalk v1.3.3, beta4 (http://www.ecutalk.com/downloads/ECUTalk_v1.3.3_beta4.exe). I'm fairly sure all the functionality introduced in these betas now works as intended, though I haven't had much if any feedback from Imperial sensor (Mi/Gal/MPG etc) users. If there are no problems with this build, it will become final v1.3.3.

Things added in beta1/beta2/beta3:
#1 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=1) Automatically attempt reconnection to ECU after connection lost
#5 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=5) Other Trip Meter Sensors (Fuel Used, Trip Fuel Economy, Trip Distance)
#14 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=14) Add offset option timing so US users can get correct timing readings
#22 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=22) imperial (etc) option in the options is cutoff with japanese font
#24 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=24) Derived sensors should select dependent sensors automatically
#25 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=25) Options might not be saved if you dont select another tab before closing
#26 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=26) Priority option for ECUTalk (eg so mp3 etc play fine)

New features/fixed bugs in beta4 below:
#10 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=10) Put font size/scaling for gauges in options
#31 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=31) When value exceeds gauge maximum, the actual value should be on digital readout
#32 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=32) When you read fault codes without having connected to ecu, ecutalk exits
#33 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=33) Gauge colour preview doesnt update till you restart ECUTalk
#35 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=35) Save long term trip sensor statistics
#36 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=36) Clear trip statistics from sensors
#37 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=37) Option dropdown lists are editable on laptop/PC (shouldn't be)
#38 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=38) check for port open when reconnecting when gauges showing
#39 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=39) Put option in for data flush wait time
#41 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=41) If using L|T|R|B settings in the ini file, the gauges arent displayed properly if L is far from 0.

Additional notes:
1) For Flush Wait option, 100ms is default, lower values will give quicker startup times, but higher values might help with some connection problems, eg sensors not showing up, ECU part number not being read, gauges not moving when showing gauges, etc. Eg I can use 20ms on my desktop and 50ms on my 568 Jornada.
2) For Font Base Size and Increment, this allows you to specify a font size, and then the amount of pixels which the font size will be incremeneted depending on gauge size. Eg 6pt + 50px increment on a 200px wide gauge = 10pt font.
3) Also a minor fix to heading names in logs so distance/fuel used have units (KM/Mi,L/Gal)

Spent a lot of work on this one, got a lot of the niggling issues out of the way, the new trip meter sensors along with saving/reset ability should prove quite useful for those with pocket pc/car pc setup :) Any issues with it let me know.

Peter

ECUTalk v1.3.3 (http://www.ecutalk.com/ecutalk.aspx) - Changes from v1.3.3 beta4 below:


#42 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=42) Removed console output for few users who have a console setup on their PPC
#55 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=55) Trip meter sensors shouldn't keep 'counting' while car is turned off
#58 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=58) Prevent 'clicking' show gauges button with keyboard when gauges already shown
#69 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=69) PPC users can now utilise the 'working area' option and the LTRB option (ini setting)
#70 (http://www.ecutalk.com/mantis/view.php?id=70) Changed default 100ms max refresh to 40ms (equivalent of 25fps)

Complete list of changes from v1.3.2 on the Version History (http://www.ecutalk.com/versionhistory.aspx) page.

btw cables can be bought via the website now:
http://www.ecutalk.com/interface.aspx

$55AUD (~$36USD) serial
$70AUD (~$46USD) usb

Does this work with 96G20 or 99G20? Both my 96G20 and 99G20 seem to have the consult connector that has different pin layout than the website consult connector. Out of the 6 pins, the"Check" pin seems to be different. The other 5 pins have the same locations.

i think the 96 will work. i dont know too much about US/euro cars, but i think some time in 99 they switched from consult to OBD-II? do you only have the consult port, or both a consult port and OBD-II port?

either way if u order a cable and it doesnt work for your car, u can get refund if u return it in original condition.

My 96G20 and 99G20 have both the consult connector and OBD-II connector. 1996 is the first year in the US for mandatory OBD-II I think. What makes me wonder is the "Check" pin, which is at a different location than your website diagram shows. Other 5 pins are consistent with your diagram. And the connector seems to be the same. Anyone else on the forum has any experience? Are there different consult connectors, like version I or II?

it may be that the check pin is part of the OBDII connector? do u have a service manual or some way to find out what the manual check error codes is?

consult2 is via the OBDII connector, so theres really only a single kind of 'consult' connector, which is that grey 14 pin one.

99 won't work. ericdd tried it.

it may be that the check pin is part of the OBDII connector? do u have a service manual or some way to find out what the manual check error codes is?

consult2 is via the OBDII connector, so theres really only a single kind of 'consult' connector, which is that grey 14 pin one.

On my 96G20 and 99G20, OBD-II connector is a 16 pin white connector with 4 used while consult connector is a 14 pin grey connector with 6 used. Apparently, the consult port is carrying some extra control/signal info.

i think how things went is that in 1996 when obd2 became mandatory, US nissans got the minimum obd2 support via the obd2 connector, but maintained full consult support via the consult port.

in 98/99 sometime when nissan came out with the consult 2, diagnostics moved to the obd2 port. however, in some cases the consult port was left there for legacy systems on the consult bus, not necessarily because the ECU was on the consult bus.

so without knowing the specifc switchover date for your specific car model, without actually trying to hook it up and read data from the consult port, its hard to be certain.

the pins you've listed doesnt rule anything out either way (obd2 only needs 3 or 4, and consult needs 5 minimum).

its also confusing because euro cars didnt need obd2 until 98/99 or something, and then jap/aus cars didnt get it until new models after 99 (so S15/R34 which ended 01, never had obd2 at all, just full consult1 support)

sometimes its possible to work out switchover dates if you have the nissan fast database, as you can look at when they changed the ECUs (e.g. they had to change ECU for R32 skyline in sep/oct 89 to add consult support - earlier cars from june when they launched didnt have consult at all) - however i dont have US cars in my fast database

yea i got a 94 g20t and i order one i love that my car is obd2 but i think all the smog places think its obd1 cause of the year

i have a 96, & can confirm it works

so just to be clear (cause i really want to get this).

even though my 99 p11, has the consult 1 style port, this won't interface? or will it?

Don't think it will work on a '99. See the first few replies on this thread. The NProbe (http://www.300degree.com/electronics/nprobe/) won't work on a '99 either.

Peter (New Kleer), it has been a while... Any new information on US 1999 P11 G20 compatibility with the ECUTalk Consult LCD V2 Display and related software?

How is compatibility with an modified 1994 -96 ECU such as JWT or Calum or the swap of a stock P10 / B14 ECU of the same years?

i havent heard any more about this. do US have 'P11-144' like UK? Cause i know the UK guys say generally the 144 is OBDII/consultII but the normal P11 is consult.

id imagine an earlier ECU should work fine (subject to the swap itself and wiring etc being OK, cant comment on that), assuming the ECU is wired up to the consult port - do you have a service manual for the 99 G20?

i guess it all comes down to why the 99 G20 doesnt work - could be timings (latest ecutalk v1.3.5 beta3+ has delay1/delay2 settings for connection in the ini file), could try set them to say 500/500 and see what happens.

could be that it is consult2 and therefore the consult plug is there only for ancillary systems?

hard to really work it out without having access to the car.

The US Spec P11 G20 was built in Japan, not Europe. There are no P11-144 in the US.

is there any way then to determine the 99+ G20 with obd2/consult2 vs the up to 99 model with consult1? any new model refresh or anything sometime during 99?

is there any way then to determine the 99+ G20 with obd2/consult2 vs the up to 99 model with consult1? any new model refresh or anything sometime during 99?

actually the 99 is still consult 1

if they did start making them with consult 2, the only way would be to look at the connector type to determine if it's the newer version

did the 99+ ones (i.e. once switched to obdII/consultII) lose the 14 pin grey consult connector then? (is that how you tell them apart?)

they still had it, but it was a noticeably different style connector. the ones that still had the consult 1, had the connector that looks like the obd1/2 interface. the newer ones where redesigned and looked like a different connector

never heard of any nissan (after consult started) that had any diagnostic port other than the consult or OBDII port (or both).

http://www.ecutalk.com/images/consultport.jpg
http://www.ecutalk.com/images/OBDII.jpg

are you saying there is some 3rd kind? (is it mentioned in the service manuals, showing wiring etc?)

no it's still the third kind, but that picture of the consult port you posted is the consult 1 port, that's the one you're looking for. there was a post around here that had pictures compairing the two, i'll see if i can find it

any luck with that?

i read of someone with a JDM '99 primera, SR20DE CVT M6 - is this a G20 P11? he said his car only has OBDII port, but if he used some wiring harness for consult port, he could use consult software.

any luck with that?

i read of someone with a JDM '99 primera, SR20DE CVT M6 - is this a G20 P11? he said his car only has OBDII port, but if he used some wiring harness for consult port, he could use consult software.

no i couldn't find it.

if i remember, the consult 1 port looked like
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but the consult 2 looked like
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it was obviously a different shaped connector.

dont know if this is correctly placed but this is something i found when researching some phone info.

anway they are based out of the UK. and they offer the nissan consult hardware. idk about software.

http://www.cellcorner.com/xshp/cell-phone-unlocking/nissan-car-vehicle-cables/

If you go on ebay and search nissan consult port there are a ton of them for about $20. Just buy a serial to usb from radio shack and you can plug it into your laptop. There are a lot of free software online for it too.

I have a 95 g20t with OBDII and the consult port in the fuse box area and can confirm that it works. (be careful if you are running windows 7 though, it likes to try to install drivers to the usb to serial port cable that it really shouldnt, the cable should come with a driver CD)