Mautai916's VE swap has officially begun!

[Mautai916]

Well for those who don't know yet... we bent some valves on my DE engine while trying to install my S3 cams S3 Install gone bad (http://www.g20.net/forum/showthread.php?t=37455&highlight=install+bad). So I figured that since im going to be putting in a new Sr20, and DET is too rich for my blood, why not a VE? :lol:

Pretty much, my car has been dead since July 18th, and i have been too busy with work and school to even work on my car... my poor baby's got like 1/4 inch of dust on her... :surprised . Anyways, today was the first day that we're actually starting to wench away! Only after 2 months! Due to my tight schedule, me and Jorge (SuperblkStalion) can only put ~ 5-10 hrs a week into the swap. Yeah its gonna take a little bit to get her running, but it will get done!

Any suggestions on my VE swap? As of now, i plan on running her on DE injectors, and a DE ECU, and a DE wiring harness. The VE ECU will come around Xmas time. So this is only temporary. She will have a cai,header, remus muffler (primera), and a Mossy water pump pulley. I still haven't decided upon what i am going to use to activate my cams. There are several out there, but i dunno which one i should go for.

Day 1

Today was the first day we started working on the car. We got all the fluids drained, removed radiator, intake, headers, and disconnected a lot of plugs. We started working on taking off the axels but didn't get finished today. All that is left is pretty much the A/c compressor, motor mounts, and disconnecting the tranny. Other than that, the engine should be out next week.

Sorry guys, I forgot to bring my camera. But ill make it up with more pictures the next time we work on it!

[cavern]

VEry nice my friend, keep us informed.

- Jon

[gtiru12]

Bastard!! :lol:

[gtiru12]

I think i might help out.

[randyo156]

Woohooo!
good for you bro
if i knew how much a det setup is i may have gone ve too
damn
im in 5k already and no end in site

[the1yoshi]

congrats man. look forward to seeing pics of it when the swap is done. how much did u pay for the motor? did it include the cvt auto transmission?

[Mautai916]

Woohooo!
good for you bro
if i knew how much a det setup is i may have gone ve too
damn
im in 5k already and no end in site

tell me about it! My quote was 2.5k-4k for stock boost...... sucks.. Plus there is no end to a DET! it can be as big as your wallet, and THEN some.

congrats man. look forward to seeing pics of it when the swap is done. how much did u pay for the motor? did it include the cvt auto transmission?

I'm buying it from a friend for $1,100 for the VE, engine only. Im selling my S3's soon, so i would only pay ~$800 for VE ;) No worries guys. We're scheduled to work on the car tomorrow (thursday) so ill give you plenty of pictures for your viewing pleasure. :)

[gdubb]

are you gettin your ve from luis ? cant wait to see pics

[Mautai916]

are you gettin your ve from luis ? cant wait to see pics

yupps~ hopefully ognna pick it up by the end of this week

[SuperblkStalion]

are you gettin your ve from luis ? cant wait to see pics
hey man where the hell did you get or make that a-pillar thing for your gauges. i have been contemplating making my own cause i like my coin/drink tray.

[l1t43]

i have a faze one that i got at autozone, or advance. you just cut them and then heat it with a hair dryer, mold it to fit the pillar, and screw it into the pillar.

[gdubb]

damn you mautai916 thats my motor .... j/k i was gonna buy it but i just bought a house so im tap for money right know . i cant wait till you get it in you have to take me for a ride let me know if you come out here to get it this week end and ill stop by luis and say waz up

[gdubb]

hey man where the hell did you get or make that a-pillar thing for your gauges. i have been contemplating making my own cause i like my coin/drink tray.
its a gauge pod from a se-R sentra it fits with lil modding let me know next time you out here and you can check it out
oh by the way i think luis still have his gauge pod from his sentra

[Mautai916]

damn you mautai916 thats my motor .... j/k i was gonna buy it but i just bought a house so im tap for money right know . i cant wait till you get it in you have to take me for a ride let me know if you come out here to get it this week end and ill stop by luis and say waz up

Its my motor now! :flowers: Anyhoo, ill shoot you a call when im head down there.

[TE's02p11G]

thanks for the phone call Mauti.... that's ok no help needed then!

[Mautai916]

Day 2
Sorry for the lack up updates guys life's been very busy. Other than that, the engine's ready to come out. We're just waiting for the engine hoist. And for your viewing pleasure, here are some pictures of my new baby.

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/VE_014.jpg

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/VE_002.jpg

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/VE_004.jpg

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/VE_008.jpg

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/VE_009.jpg

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/VE_011.jpg

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/501/VE_011.jpg
My poor G hasn't been driven for 2 months... look at how dirty she is... :*(

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/VE_013.jpg
Everything's disconnected! Engine's comming out Tuesday at the latest! :rambo:

[SuperblkStalion]

well have this biatch running real soon.

[Bennett @ esg]

damn, sounds like fun. Whats your plan for cali emissions?

[Mautai916]

damn, sounds like fun. Whats your plan for cali emissions?

:naughty: Cali emissions? what are you talking about? this is the "DE" engine that the car "came with". There's no way in the world that i would cheat on Cali emissions, or would I? :naughty:

:cool:

[Bennett @ esg]

That's what I like to hear. I'm no cheater or thief, but f*ck CARB.

[ZoliElo]

:naughty: Cali emissions? what are you talking about? this is the "DE" engine that the car "came with". There's no way in the world that i would cheat on Cali emissions, or would I? :naughty:

:cool:

Do you think that will really work? Honestly? If so, maybe a VE swap is in my future...

[G20Rida4Life]

^^^ I Don't See Why It Wouldnt Work... It Doesnt Have a Turbo Sticking Off The Front Of It Making It Obvious...

[Bennett @ esg]

It wouldnt work because theres no egr equipment. Smoggers dont care if it looks the same if theres no egr and an engine code number that doesnt match up with the car.

[Mautai916]

It wouldnt work because theres no egr equipment. Smoggers dont care if it looks the same if theres no egr and an engine code number that doesnt match up with the car.

Its mainly the EGR thats missing from it visually. Passing emmissions is no prob because the VE burns clean. As for the engine code.... i've never seen/had a smogger check for the engine code yet.. :eh:

[ArticSpy]

euh
n00b question;
what are Cali emissions?

thx ;)

[cavern]

In the USA the state of California its pretty much, if you don't have stock engine in your car, they fail you and you cant register the car to drive. Only way around it is to buy 'CARB' approved mods that you have to show them the emblems for or they fail you that way also..

- Jon

[ArticSpy]

ohhh !
i know what you mean... we have that also. but its called RDW and thats only when you swap your engine from a 4 cil. to a 6 cil.

grtz

[CurtDragon]

euh
n00b question;
what are Cali emissions?

thx ;)

most states have emissions not just california. He didnt really explain what emissions testing is exactly. But the main point of it is to make sure cars arent producing more than a set amount of pollutants but testing the cars on a dyno and measuring the amounts of certain chemicals coming out of the exhuast. Other parts of the testing are checking of safety items on the car to make sure it operates properly like testing turn signals, reverse lights, tire wear, etc.

The only part that doesnt really make any sense is the part of the visual check. I can understand them looking to see if EGR(which is for emissions) is connected but it shouldnt matter what engine is in the car as long as it passes the dyno testing. Although I do believe it is legal to have an engine of the same manufacturer as long as it is the same year or newer. But the reason most people fail is because of the lack of EGR.

[ArticSpy]

:o
okey ^^
weird ~~
thanks :)

[SuperblkStalion]

looks like the engine is coming out before the weekend. nice round of applause to Martin, he singlehandedly has pretty much taken out his whole engine.

[Fraychild]

So, how's the install coming along???

[2000 G-Twenty-T]

this is all just a ploy so you can drive your superfast/charged previa!

[gtiru12]

this is all just a ploy so you can drive your superfast/charged previa!

He has enough fun with the Previa, why does he need the G for?

[Mautai916]

Day 3

Well me and Jorge finally got that engine out! Woohoo! Im half way from completing my very 1st engine swap! :rambo: Anyhoo, we're gonna be prepping the VE now, transfering sensors and such, and ill post up pics ASAP! That whole "Image Pending Approval" gets annoying at times... :crosseyed

[Nelson]

Congrats! Can't wait to hear your feedback on it once it's in. Looks like you got yourself a spotless motor.

[Mautai916]

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/Day_2_002.jpg
Down she goes!

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/Day_2_005.jpg
We lost control of the crane, the engine dropped and the tranny broke loose of its studs and fell off..... :eh: Lol, j/k

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/Day_2_006.jpg
Here's Jorge raping my engine thru the power steering hose.... As you can tell, that hose isn't really that big :lol:

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/Day_2_007.jpg
My Newly equipted Red-Top Chinese SR Engine. 1/2 hp at the legs. :rambo:

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/Day_2_010.jpg
Besides that grease spot on the right, should i resurface my flywheel? I didn't get it done when i was breaking in my clutch (400 miles ago)

Anyhoo, we're just in the process of transfering sensors and such. Ill post more pixs later, on the differeces on the DE/VE sensors and such~

[Nelson]

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/Day_2_006.jpg


Can you smell what the Jorge's cookin'?

[PandaG20]

Looking good man. Hope everything continues to be smooth for you.

JM

[low612]

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/Day_2_005.jpg


wow you even have community service help :smile:

[Fraychild]

Ha ha ha! Lookin' good man!! I like that Red-Top engine!!! 2 FP (Feet Power)!!

You should've gotten a Fidanza Flywheel for this... You'd be amazed how HEAVY the DE flywheels is bro' ... seriously.
Remember to use the Flywheel screws from the DE (longer ones) and Torque them right -

Good Luck and Keep It Up!!! ;)

[SuperblkStalion]

Can you smell what the Jorge's cookin'?
the hose is limp and isnt big because theres no pressure, but if there was ....watch out

[JRzGirl]

Ya, he looks good, huh? And the hose is AWESOME! ;)

[Mautai916]

Ha ha ha! Lookin' good man!! I like that Red-Top engine!!! 2 FP (Feet Power)!!

You should've gotten a Fidanza Flywheel for this... You'd be amazed how HEAVY the DE flywheels is bro' ... seriously.
Remember to use the Flywheel screws from the DE (longer ones) and Torque them right -

Good Luck and Keep It Up!!! ;)

Seriously i really really wanted a Fidanza..... But im more concerted about getting this baby up and going 1st. Imma go with a Fidanza when i get a new clutch. For now im just gonna resurface it and use the stock flywheel. The clutch is only 500 miles old~ So that means is nice and broken in so it can handle my VE's powwwwa!

[amek]

how could you cheat it though?

[Mautai916]

how could you cheat it though?

Who says im cheating? This is a Sr20DE silly~ :paranoid: :shhh: ;)

[amek]

hahah omg your switching the de with ve on motor
hahhahah genious

[Mautai916]

Day 4

Well we got everything transfered from the DE to the VE. My Motor mounts are filled with urethane (80 shore because i don't want too many vibrations). Engine is fully prepped and good to go. Hopefully if everything goes as planned, the engine will be bolted up along with the tranny by thursday, *crosses-fingers* :rambo:

[amek]

"crossed fingers"

[cavern]

Hahah hows that injector? :P

- Jon

[2000 G-Twenty-T]

Day 4

My Motor mounts are filled with urethane (80 shore because i don't want too many vibrations).

sure wish i could say the same *knudge knudge*

[SuperblkStalion]

Ya, he looks good, huh? And the hose is AWESOME! ;)

yup, only she knows how to turn my nozzle on. luv u babe.

[Norcal_]

ACK! Your the one with my axle mount that Luis left on the motor when you bought it :zoinks: Been look all over for that since I towed his old silver car home. :smile:

[SuperblkStalion]

so you managed to tow it home huh? bout time. :)

[Mautai916]

ACK! Your the one with my axle mount that Luis left on the motor when you bought it :zoinks: Been look all over for that since I towed his old silver car home. :smile:

haha. Yup. Thats me! I compared it to my G's axel mount and its exactly the same when compared to your B13 rite? Anyhoo, i've got a spare if you want it :)

[Mautai916]

Day 4

Well the engine is in! We bolted her up along with the filled motor mounts, and that baby is solid. Now we're just pluggin in all the harnesses and such. I also put in my Pacesetter short shifter, along with the ES bushing. All i need to say is that it feels great, and i will never drive another G without it.

We could of had the engine running at least by today but we had some minor problems.
1) Reccomended by Justin, i put in a Stanza WP pulley to replace my VE pulley. The pulley is bigger than the VE pulley itself, almost an inch bigger in diameter when compared to a stock DE pulley, but only a hair smaller than the N1. But for $27.00, im not complaining at all. The problem was that the stock belt for the WP could not accomidate for the bigger Stanze pulley, so im off to Napa to get a new one tomorrow. No biggie.

2) Obviously there are some extra plugs that are laying around because the VE doesn't use some sensors that the DE has. So we're trying to get it all straightened out.

Other than the extra plugs that we need to figure out where they go, we got the hard parts already taken care of. The engine should at LEAST be running by our next working day (thursday). Wish me luck that everything runs ok!

[Wiggy]

well good luck!!! hope it all works out on the first turn of the key.

dumb question why replace the ve pulley with a stanza pulley ? i thought that the ve pulley eliminated the cavation issue at higher rpms?

well once again good job
joe

[Mautai916]

dumb question why replace the ve pulley with a stanza pulley ? i thought that the ve pulley eliminated the cavation issue at higher rpms?

joe

Same reason why people get UP pulleys/ N1 pulleys for the VE. The bigger the better. Less cavation.

[the1_theDAve]

ohhh.. the suspense grows ever so much more suspenseful. hehe...

[Fraychild]

:PICS!:

[rmyc]

PICS Biotch.. cant wait to see them.. i can get u a vtec sticker:-P

[Mautai916]

Day 5

Well today we we reattached all the harnesses except for 2 of them. No pics yet guys, Still waiting for the server to approve my pics -_-''

Engine should of been ready to go except for 2 minor problems.

1) I can't figure out which 2 plugs are left over. Im sure one of them is for the EGR temp, but dunno the other. Its light blue and it sits right by the coolant temp sensor.

2) It seems like for the VE i have an extra place for the coolant hose go to? I've connected collant hose to where its supose to go, but i have this extra one right by the cooland temp sensor and i dunno where it goes...

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/504/VE_008.jpg

Its that one thats capped off on the top right corner of the engine. Right below the intake manifold... Any help?

[ArticSpy]

capped ? O_O
*blind*
where ?

[SuperblkStalion]

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29300213552.jpg&s=x10 click on pic to see the extra plug

[Wiggy]

Day 5

1) I can't figure out which 2 plugs are left over. Im sure one of them is for the EGR temp, but dunno the other. Its light blue and it sits right by the coolant temp sensor.


?
on this light blue sensor how many wires on it?? it could be one of two things a)the temp gauge or (b) the oil pressure sensor light (if they are single wires)

looking good

lates
joe

[ArticSpy]

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=10/29300213552.jpg&s=x10 click on pic to see the extra plug

weird stuff >_>
can't figure out what it is ~~

[cavern]

I told him what it is for and where it hooks to, he's just an idiot :P JK!

- Jon

[Mautai916]

Day 6

She runs! My baby breathed her 1st breate @ 7:35pm 10/22/05! We hooked everything up and cranked her... she ran on the 1st try! She idles perfectly fine, no problems what-so-ever. Check engine light isn't on "yet", but it will be soon enough. All I need to do now is to put on my axels and drive her away! :lol: I'll give my final thoughts/conclusion of the whole swap after I actually her my baby rolling again...... its been 3 months since the S3 cam incident.... Hearing my baby run just brought a tear to my eye....

[SuperblkStalion]

yeah, he was on his knees crying like he just had his first born. almost ran out of tissue, poor guy. but yeah, tat thing idled great, cant wait to see what it can really do on the road.

[amek]

whos the mother.... good to hear your swap went successfull so want to help with mine?

[2000 G-Twenty-T]

now you better drive your ass up here to HSU!

[cavern]

Now quit sitting around, make some cash, get an ECU to JWT to program, slap in the VE injectors with that and a Greddy MSS system and then romp on it, you'll piss your pants :)

- Jon

[ArticSpy]

damn ><
*jealous* ~~
great job pal ^^

[Mautai916]

Pictures!

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/500/Ve_Swap_Day_4_012.jpg
Shhh... :shhh: she's sleeping......

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/500/Ve_Swap_Day_4_001.jpg
Holy! Look at all that sludge!

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/500/Ve_Swap_Day_4_002.jpg
look at all that dirty oil!

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/500/Ve_Swap_Day_4_003.jpg
so dirty.... :p

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/500/Stanza_and_DE_pulley_2.jpg
This is the difference between the stanza WP pulley vs DE WP pulley.... big difference...

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/500/Ve_Swap_Day_4_017.jpg
(Before) DE pulley on VE

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/500/Ve_Swap_Day_4_015.jpg
(After) Stanza pulley on VE with no fitment issues. Just needed a belt a tad bigger.

[2000 G-Twenty-T]

i want to have your babies.

[rmyc]

whats the advantage of the stanza pulley

[TE's02p11G]

It's just so sexy... sexier then me!! Drive it by later! Good Job Martin and Jorge (the backbone of it all!) Can't wait to hear it and seee it!

[Mautai916]

i want to have your babies.

what are you talking about?? you already have my babies... :naughty:

whats the advantage of the stanza pulley

A larger pulley will drive the WP slower and eliminate cavitation at high RPM.

Water pump pulleys: DE < VE < Stanza < N1 (VE)

[Mautai916]

Update

Axels are on, and i took her for a drive. She drives nice, but rough. Finally i got my CEL's. Here they are:

1) 105 - EGR and canister control valve

2) 25 - Idle speed control valve circuit is open or shorted

3) 65 - 65 Misfire detected - cylinder no. 4

4) 35 - Exhaust gas temperature sensor (California models)

ICAV, and my misfire in cylinder #4. When she runs, she studders a bit. When i rev her a lil, i hear a *puh* out of the exhaust, not backfire... but just a *puhh* sound. I was supecting that it was a misfire. She needs me to give her gas to start and she runs a bit rough even after she's warmed up. I also got a flahing CEL (sign of misfire) while i was driving. So ill go get all that checked out.

[ArticSpy]

O_o
weird... the other cylinders are running fine i assume ? :o
maybe the sparkplug died ^_^

[Mautai916]

Problem fixed!

I was getting a spark, but no gas, so i swapped out the injector. Problem fixed! Its funny, the car runs good, and pulls ok for 3 cylinders. Once i got #4 going again... i started falling love...... :teeth:

[amek]

i would F*ck this engine....if it was properly lubed.

[CurtDragon]

someone needs a woman

[Yahnozha]

what year stanza pully is that?

[Ericdd]

yeah I want more info on the pulley? any benfit for the sr20de motor?

[TexasP11]

Congrats bro! Glad you got it in finally and running!

[SuperblkStalion]

Martin, i expect a ride this sunday when i take my cars to your work.

[ArticSpy]

Martin, i expect a ride this sunday when i take my cars to your work.

me too ><
i'm coming to the USA maybe ;)

[TE's02p11G]

Yahee! Good to hear that your baby is up and running. I will be stuck at work all night again. I wont be able to see your car till Tuesday when i gets back from LA. First thing you need to do is WASH your filthy car! Hhehe.. ok talk to you soon man!

[gtiru12]

Why would you put a bigger pully, the extra one or 2 horsepower you get out of it, doesn't compensate for your engines cooling. I would rather buy the USS pulley set.

[Yahnozha]

you use the larger pully to prevent water pump from cavitation at high RPM's, doesnt hurt the motor.

[Mautai916]

Why would you put a bigger pully, the extra one or 2 horsepower you get out of it, doesn't compensate for your engines cooling. I would rather buy the USS pulley set.

A bigger WP does the same like the UR pulley, in fact, i think its bigger, although i dun have the exact measurements tho....

[markbuts3]

Nice work Martin..:thumbsup:

More info on the pulley please :) Did you get it new from Justin ??

[Mautai916]

Conclusion of my SR20VE swap

Overall the swap really is not that bad. Just take your time on it. This was me and Jorge's 1st engine swap and we got her done right. Again, just make sure to take your time. The SR0VE is pretty much a direct swap. Make sure you transfer all sensors from your DE to the VE, other than that everything was just plug and play. I also filled my motor mounts with Urethane with 80 shore. It already vibrates my car quite a bit. Feels like your engine is running a little rough during idle, but motor is solid and does not move. You can try 94 shore if you want something even harder, but more vibrations. As for tools, just make sure you have a complete set of sockets/wrenches, and plenty of extensions. What me and jorge did not do was labeling all of the harnesses that we disconnected. It will be easier for you to reconnect the harness later on if you label them. Honestly, its not that hard at all, It took us about 10 mins to find out where all the plugs go. Also, for my p10, I had 2 plugs left over from the EGR that the VE doesn't use. Just plug in 70 omh resistors to it, or if you are sending in your ECU to JWT to put the resistors in the ECU so you will no longer throw any more CEL's

Also, for those who are interested about the Stanza pulley, it fits any SR20DE engine. Just get a bigger belt. I got it for about $33 shipped from Justin @ EverythingG20.com

Problems I’ve encountered
1) The location the coolant lines. It was different from my DE. The VE uses sizes 3/4'' and 5/8'' coolant lines. The 3/4'' go thru the firewall to the heater core for the A/C. Unlike the DE, you need to take off the top pre-shaped 3/4'' hose, and go buy another 3/4'' hose that is about 6 inches in length to connect to the VE. The 5/8'' nipples go to the throttle body. If you’re using a DE throttle body like I am, the 5/8'' hose will be a too big for the throttle body. What I did was just clamp them down really tight, or find some adaptors at your local hardware store to change the 5/8'' to a smaller size.

2) If you are going to get the bigger Stanza water pump pulley, make sure you get a bigger belt. You will need one that is 9/16'' x 35-3/8'' in size. I got mines at Napa, Part # 040347

3) Make sure you grind down your distributor if you are planning to use a DE one or else it won't fit.

4) If you are having a real hard time taking out the driver side axel, disconnect the CV clamp, and just remove the axle with connection still in the tranny. Yeah it sounds funny but hear me out. I was hammering away for 30 mins and i would not get the damn axel out of the tranny! I ended up hammering off the CV clamp by accident and the axel kinda just dropped out, and got grease all over the floor, but the connecting part is still the tranny. All you need is to buy a new CV clamp, and some CV grease when putting the axel back in. *note* If you are going to do this, be prepared for the grease to splatter all over the floor if your not careful.

5) My VE had no connection harness (pig tails) for my VE solinoids. After talking to Andreas Miko, he told me that the solinoids have 2 different sized connections, and that we can use two specific connectors from any DE. ONLY if you use a file, and slowly file away the "keys" inside the connector to allow it to fit solinoids. 1) Any injector connector will fit one of the solinoids (easy to get), 2) the conneting harness from the that connects to the ARV on the back of the engine, under the intake manifold (a little harder to get). Pic borrowed from CarloSR (http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/511/1561ARV.JPG)

Parts you should get
1) Radiator hoses - Part # 21503-53J00 (lower), 21501-53J00 (upper)
2) Thermostat - Part # 21200-0C811
3) Alternator/AC belt - Part #11920-0E001
4) Water pump - Part # 21010-53J05
5) Throttle body gasket (If you plan on switching to a DE throttle body) - Part # 16175-79S71
6) Oil filter - Part # 15208-9E000
7) VE Spark plugs - 1)BKR6E-N-11 (NGK Stock# 5724 (http://www.ngk.com/results_cross.asp?pid=5724&x=0&y=0)) or 2) BKR6E, which is available at most auto stores, and will work just the same.
8) Injector O-rings (4 of each) - Part #16618-10V05 (upper),16618-53J00 (lowwer)
9) VE exhaust manifold gasket - Part #14036 1N500

*optional*
7) Stanza water pump pulley - Part # 21051-06E00
8) Napa water pump belt (required for stanza pulley) - Part #040347 (Size:9/16'' x 35-3/8'')
9) ES Shift bushing set (since the engine is out, it’s easier to get to, and I was also installing my short shifter in the process of the swap)- Part # 7.1103G
10) Urethane to fill motor mounts - www.mcmastercarr.com - Part # 8644K11 (80 shore), 8644K18 (94 shore)



I would like to thank everyone here at G20.net, and Sr20forum.com for all the information and experiences that they have contributed to make this swap possible for a newb like me to do my 1st engine swap with jorge.
More specifically, I would like to thank:
1) Superblkstallion - For helping me thru the swap from beggining to end. It would not of been possible at all is it were not for this man right here~ :bowdown: :rambo:
2) Justinp10 - He is the man you should definietly go to for all your OEM parts at www.everythingg20.com ! Thanks for the great prices, and oh yeah.... Did i mention that he was the one that enlightened me about the Stanza pulley? ;)
3) Cavern - For going to his car in the middle of the night,and taking pictures to help me with my swap ;)
4) Ninety-Nine SE-L - Helped me idfentify of my coolant line connection and other misc problems :teeth:
5) TE's02p11G - Lending a helping hand with the swap :)
6) Gtiru12 - Helping me with misc problems, and lending me a spare DE injector when my #4 injector died. =)
7) Andreas Miko - Need I say more?

[G20Rida4Life]

^^^ great news man! im all done with my Avenir swap and everything is clean except i cant start my car! i need an avenir fuse box to go with my setup! i have the avenir ecu and i need that damn fuse box to go with it cause the USDM box and the JDM box are different... shit sucks!

[SuperblkStalion]

well i drove the car today, and she rides like a champ. sure seems to be happy to be on the road again. Big Pat on the back to Martin for a job well done.

[TE's02p11G]

Martin, you did one hell of a job. You did alot of work and all your patience and dedication paid off. The car runs great (except that one leak!). George is a good man over seeing the entire project. That by the way is one great write up... I give two big pats to you Martin.... and George! Great job man! Now help me on my turbo!!!

[Lu:s]

Glad you got that engine up and running, it will be missed.

[Mautai916]

Glad you got that engine up and running, it will be missed.
so luis..... when ya gonna help me with my MSS??? ;)

[Fraychild]

Congrats baby!!! :thumbsup:

You know us rare VE breeds gotta stick together :p

[ERIKbronx]

Congrads man... Great work!

[savestheday]

have you had to get your emissions done yet? What are you planning on doing to pass?

[Mautai916]

have you had to get your emissions done yet? What are you planning on doing to pass?

find a "shadY" smog tech ;)

[amek]

mautai -- i predict that i will have 2 gees...for ve swap by feb. i still have maintanence to take care of .../axel/ struts/ then engine time.

[markbuts3]

Hey Martin. There are tons of Bluebirds (Stanzas) here in the scrapyards..=)

Did you have to do any grinding for clearance to fit the pulley on the VE ?? Did you try it on the DE at all ??

[Mautai916]

Hey Martin. There are tons of Bluebirds (Stanzas) here in the scrapyards..=)

Did you have to do any grinding for clearance to fit the pulley on the VE ?? Did you try it on the DE at all ??

I actually haf to do some very VERY minor grinding. Which was enlarging the whole of the pulley so i can mount i ton my WP. I talked to justin and it was supose to be a perfect fit. I just had to enlarge it VERY little. I think it was just the pulley i got, all the others work fine from what ive been told. As for the DE, it works just the same. I had not fitment problems on that at all. I like the stanza pulley becaue its bigger than the VE, and UR pulley, but just a hair smaller than the N1. DE<UR<VE<N1. Good luck on the find!

[markbuts3]

Thanks for that Martin. I'd read some threads on SR20Forum where it was mentioned that the front cover needed grinding for clearance.

That pulley is used on a few cars here in the UK between '86 and '90 ;) (Bluebirds....T12, T72, U11. Sunnys....B12, N13).

[Mautai916]

Yeah, i put the pulley on my DE just to test things out with no problems at all. Just make sure your getting the correct stanza pulley. I dunno what year it is, but you can refrence it with the part # in my previous posts. :)

[markbuts3]

Cheers m8. I checked the part number already ;) Now to find a belt stockist :baffled:

[Mautai916]

I have the measurements for the belt that you would want to use for your car. I posted that on my earlier posts too. That should be a good start as for looking for a belt. :)

[phatg20]

Now Boost That Ve!!!

No seriusly, Glad to see another clean swap. VE POWER!!

[Mautai916]

Now Boost That Ve!!!

No seriusly, Glad to see another clean swap. VE POWER!!

Im considering it! MB it will be my new 06 project! :) Once i get the prices together i might know when ill start. So hurry up and tell me your total to turbo your VE! ;)

[Sweep]

I may be up for a swap, Does the VE have the plugs for the Oil Pressue Guage or can i take the Oil Filter holder thingie over to the ve

[Dulle]

It should come with the oilfilter-housing..anything else would be strange I think. What you probably need to move over (as far as I know at least) is alternator, powersteering, a/c, distributor (maybe?)...I think that's basically it, but other things are interchangeable. I think you can use the DE throttle body, but I dont know any pro's og con's for that.
Gimme a couple of weeks, and I can give you more first-hand info about doing a euro-install :P

[Sweep]

the problem is with most DE engines us the dont have the plug for the oil pressue guage, i had to swap the housing from the egt to the gsx engine for it to work.

[Dulle]

Aaah, like that. Well..I dont know really. All have the plug for the oil pressure warning light though, but I dont know anything about the gauge. Only the SRi models came with that up here I think, not the eGT's, and I think it was only P10 too.
I've bought a separate gauge though, to monitor things.
But if I understand you correctly you are talking about the sensor, right? I would guess the threads and everything is the same, just that the sensor for the OE oil-pressure gauge is a different part number. And maybe a different kind of connector?

And if you mean that the oilfilter-housing has two holes, one for the pressure warning light, and one for the gauge, you could always buy a splitter (dont know what they are really called).
Maybe this is something you could use?
http://www.nissport.com/catalog/type.asp?EquipmentType=Applications&ProductType=Nissan
I've ordered some things from there now. Cant say anything since I dont have first hand experience, but they seem to be good after what I've read around.

[Sweep]

it is only the eGT's thatb have the oil pressue guage, The only problem is finding a VE engine in the UK,

I might perhaps get a P11-144 and do it with that.

[t5s]

i need to do this sometime soon. Does anybody know where i can get a good price on a ve front clip? I may install the cvt auto transmission with it too.