well ok i finally got my wheel alignment and they got to adjust the toe but not the camber because the bushing wouldn't turn anymore.....so the front left is cambering in alittle......i thought that the superpro bushing would help with the camber but it only did alittle.....so i guess i need the D2 camber plates.......

just wanted to share....

vince

Vince, camber plates won't do anything for the front camber on a P10.

Did they know how to adjust the Superpros ???

Yea man...I just bought a set of these bushings for the sole purpose of correcting negative camber as my stock bushings are fine. I hope I can get mine adjusted. Maybe the shop did not understand the setup.

Hey man,
I found a site that gives you a pretty good view of the metal sleeves. It looks like they both can be positioned to give you some camber adjustment. I dont have my bushings yet, but looking at this pic, it seems like both ends of the upper control link can be adjusted as the bolt hole is off center. I could be way off here, but what if you tried moving the sleeve on the part that attaches to the suspension and not where the typical adjustment is (up on the frame side)....Dont know if this makes any sense..but just an idea.
Here is the pic:
Bushing Install (http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/june03/g20_superpro/images/upper-arm-loaded.jpg)

http://www.g20.net/forum/showpost.php?p=238285&postcount=1 ;)

they did adjust it but the bolts wouldn't turn no more.......if am not mistaken the got the left front to go 0.04 and the right front to go 0.32 (this is the guess on top of my head) and thats the farest they got it to turn....i post up the sheet that they gave me after the alignment.....

so the plates make no difference...?that sucks cause i thought it would help me out....

vince

I've had 2 alignments with the superpro's on.. I end up adjusting it myself cause they cant get it to turn right or they turn it to fast/to much...

- Jon

Hey man,
I found a site that gives you a pretty good view of the metal sleeves. It looks like they both can be positioned to give you some camber adjustment. I dont have my bushings yet, but looking at this pic, it seems like both ends of the upper control link can be adjusted as the bolt hole is off center. I could be way off here, but what if you tried moving the sleeve on the part that attaches to the suspension and not where the typical adjustment is (up on the frame side)....Dont know if this makes any sense..but just an idea.
Here is the pic:
Bushing Install (http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/june03/g20_superpro/images/upper-arm-loaded.jpg)

this was the first set we did on kyle's car

if you position the encentrics as shown in this picture, it will have the maximum adjustment to positive (reducing negitive camber). in doing this you are effectively increasing the length of the upperlinks.

-chuck

they did adjust it but the bolts wouldn't turn no more.......if am not mistaken the got the left front to go 0.04 and the right front to go 0.32 (this is the guess on top of my head) and thats the farest they got it to turn....i post up the sheet that they gave me after the alignment.....

so the plates make no difference...?that sucks cause i thought it would help me out....

vince

how to adjust

adjustment is made with the bolts nearest the frame only (the outer encentric should have been installed oriented to produce the desired effect, increasing or decreasing camber). do not loosen the outer bolts!!!

step 1 - loosen the hex head bolt at the front (of the car)
step 2 - loosen the jam nut at the rear
step 3 - turn the bolt at the rear clockwise never turn this bolt counter-clockwise

step 4 - at this point you should be able to continue turning the bolt (always in a clockwise direction) and see the top of the wheel/tire moving in/out.

when the desired setting is aquired,

step 5 - tighten the hex head bolt at the front
step 6 - tighten the jam nut at the rear, do not turn the bolt!!!

done

how to adjust

adjustment is made with the bolts nearest the frame only (the outer encentric should have been installed oriented to produce the desired effect, increasing or decreasing camber). do not loosen the outer bolts!!!

step 1 - loosen the hex head bolt at the front (of the car)
step 2 - loosen the jam nut at the rear
step 3 - turn the bolt at the rear clockwise never turn this bolt counter-clockwise

step 4 - at this point you should be able to continue turning the bolt (always in a clockwise direction) and see the top of the wheel/tire moving in/out.

when the desired setting is aquired,

step 5 - tighten the hex head bolt at the front
step 6 - tighten the jam nut at the rear, do not turn the bolt!!!

done

thanx man....so if i do this would, how would i know the tires are straight.......cause even with the alignment done the tires are straight but the guys said that the its cambering hard still......

vince

Thats exactly what I was thinking Chuck! Awesome. Cant wait to get mine on!

Once you understand about the bolt bottoming out in the sleeve it's pretty self explanatory how to adjust them.

A quick run down was written in the link I posted...



I couldn't figure out how the hell they made it so the camber was adjustable so Chuck explained it all to me very late one night and it's pretty nifty how they set it up. In the picture below you can see the bolt sticking out of the bottom... it actually stays that way. What you do is you use the nut and lockwasher to tighten the control arm all down and then the bolt going through the nut bottoms out inside the metal sleeve. So in order to adjust the camber all you do is turn the bolt as if you are tightening it and it turns the metal sleeve therefore adjusting the offset of the bolt hole effectively shortening or lengthening the control arm in a way.

http://www.g20.net/gallery/data/506/625P1010669r.JPG

thanx man....so if i do this would, how would i know the tires are straight.......cause even with the alignment done the tires are straight but the guys said that the its cambering hard still......

vince

do you have the alignment specs?

yes posting tonight...

vince

sorry going to my bro's house to load it.....my scanner doesn't like me....

vince