SPEC-V Brakes on G20? - G20.net

roblop04 · Sep 03, 09, 07:46 PM

Well I have a friend that has a Spec-V that has a spare of front and rear calipers with rotors and pads.. and i was wondering if that brake setup is better than the ones on a G20 and if it is would they fit on our car with out any mod??

eugeneg20 · Sep 04, 09, 12:30 AM

if they are the brembos then its a direct bolt on and will give you better stopping power, there are many people on here that have done so

Chris · Sep 04, 09, 06:12 AM

...just keep in mind that the brembo brake upgrade means you've just limited your wheel choices as well. (you can never go back to 15" wheels much less 14" and so far I've only seen 1 set of unique 16s that fit and even most 17s won't work

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roblop04 · Sep 04, 09, 06:23 AM

i have the g20 sport rims.. now.. are the brembo brake set up the ones that come originaly on the spec-v??

Chris · Sep 04, 09, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by roblop04

i have the g20 sport rims.. now.. are the brembo brake set up the ones that come originaly on the spec-v??

Brembo brakes were not available on the 2002 or 2003 SpecV and did not appear until 2004 SpecV

I'm not the authority on SpecV though so I don't know if it was a standard SpecV thing starting with 2004 or an option so I'm sure someone else can chime in.

The brembo option is very obvious though FWIW. They will be gold calipers with BREMBO imprinted right on them for the front (the rear are not brembo IIRC)

Chris · Sep 04, 09, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by roblop04

i have the g20 sport rims.. now.. are the brembo brake set up the ones that come originaly on the spec-v??

Brembo brakes were not available on the 2002 or 2003 SpecV and did not appear until 2004 SpecV

I'm not the authority on SpecV though so I don't know if it was a standard SpecV thing starting with 2004 or an option so I'm sure someone else can chime in.

The brembo option is very obvious though FWIW. They will be gold calipers with BREMBO imprinted right on them for the front (the rear are not brembo IIRC)

..AND although the rear is slightly different, my understanding is the rear upgrade is only an option on the p11 and won't just bolt right onto the p10 (same reason why p11 rear brakes cannot just be installed on a p10 for example)

roblop04 · Sep 04, 09, 06:38 AM

Since I have the G20 Sport rims.. then that brake setup would not fit correct??

Chris · Sep 04, 09, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by roblop04

Since I have the G20 Sport rims.. then that brake setup would not fit correct??

incorrect

The g20 sport rims are only 16" and will NOT clear specV brembo brakes.

Like I said, I have only heard of 1 set of specialized rims in 16" to clear the specV brembo brakes.

You will need to find 17s (because my understanding of that 1 lone set of 16s that fit aren't even made any more and were a fluke/luck to find for that one person) -- you can do some searching here to try to find that post/thread (It MIGHT be on the brembo club thread but I don't remember). ..and BTW, NOT ALL 17s clear either so do your research before you buy!!! For example, the 17" factory 2002 or 2003 SpecV wheel does NOT clear the brembo specV brakes of 2004!!!!!

roblop04 · Sep 04, 09, 06:58 AM

thanks chris.. and i just traded a set of 2004-2006 spec-v rims for the G20 sport.. I guess i have to look for another brake setup that would work on the Sport rims.. thanks again..

HockeyVG · Sep 04, 09, 07:03 AM

The wilwood's do fit on the sport rims, right? If so, that may be an option for you.

I'm just guessing you want the free brakes from your friend instead

Chris · Sep 04, 09, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by roblop04

thanks chris.. and i just traded a set of 2004-2006 spec-v rims for the G20 sport.. I guess i have to look for another brake setup that would work on the Sport rims.. thanks again..

DOH.. Yeah, those wheels would have worked...

You can always do the p11 brake upgrade (cheapest, fastest, easiest without even touching the calipers -- just change rotors, carriers and pads and improve the braking on the p10!)

OR are you talking about a p11 in the first place?

roblop04 · Sep 04, 09, 07:11 AM

Sorry I forgot to mention I have a 99 P11T.... I did the trade because I like the Sport rims better...

Chris · Sep 04, 09, 07:13 AM

okay, to improve braking, have you considered going SS Brake lines 1st? and improving the brake pads you are using (doing a full flush of the system and possibly upgrading brake fluid?)

You'd be surprised what SS brake lines can do for braking feel for example.

polg20 · Sep 04, 09, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

For example, the 17" factory 2002 or 2003 SpecV wheel does NOT clear the brembo specV brakes of 2004!!!!!

did not know that,

anyways what SS lines options do we have for p11? and what would be considered an upgrade in brakefluid ???

sorry to kinda jack the thread....

Chris · Sep 04, 09, 10:18 AM

no worries.

It seems Techafit is the company to talk to about custom applications (see other brake-line thread here for details) and apparently the only company willing to work with g20 owners so far (goodridge wouldn't give us the time of day when I tried to get them to make modifications for better fitment for example)

and upgrade on brake fluid would be ATE gold or ATE super blue (good for up to 4 years in a street vehicle but only good for a few track events before needing to be bled in that application)

polg20 · Sep 04, 09, 10:26 AM

yeah ive missed that techafit GB by couple days, but there is a thread on a design flaw on those. any particular brand of fliud you can suggest?

Chris · Sep 04, 09, 10:46 AM

ATE Gold or ATE Super Blue. www.ogracing.com sells it for $10.95 a bottle IIRC (that's what I would recommend for someone who want's to keep it in a street car for 2-4 years)

eugeneg20 · Sep 04, 09, 03:57 PM

so the 2002 and 2003 spec v rims fit both the p11 and p10 correct me if im wrong

Chris · Sep 04, 09, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eugeneg20

so the 2002 and 2003 spec v rims fit both the p11 and p10 correct me if im wrong

YES, the SpecV rims fit p10 and p11 fine.. BUT the 2002 and 2003 specV rims will NOT fit over the 2004+ specV Brembo brakes is what I was trying to get at.

Necraos606 · Sep 04, 09, 04:36 PM

Those 16" that fit, are you talking about the Regamasters? I know a couple of other high dollar wheels (TE37, SSR Type-C both 16x8) that fit over brembos. Being forged and having small, thin spokes is always a plus.

If you REALLY wanna know what wheels fit, head over to the B15forums. They'd be glad to help you out.

Sep 03, 09, 07:46 PM	#1
roblop04 G20 Senior Member Feedback: (15) (100%) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Coral Springs Posts: 502 Vehicle: 99 AR2/QT1 P11t	SPEC-V Brakes on G20? Well I have a friend that has a Spec-V that has a spare of front and rear calipers with rotors and pads.. and i was wondering if that brake setup is better than the ones on a G20 and if it is would they fit on our car with out any mod??

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Sep 04, 09, 12:30 AM	#2
eugeneg20 G20 Senior Member Feedback: (0) (0%) Join Date: May 2007 Location: woodburn,oregon Posts: 671 Vehicle: 1994 & 1992 g20	if they are the brembos then its a direct bolt on and will give you better stopping power, there are many people on here that have done so

Sep 04, 09, 06:12 AM	#3
Chris Laid off 10/14/08 Feedback: (75) (100%) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 10,895 Vehicle: POS 95 g20t MT	...just keep in mind that the brembo brake upgrade means you've just limited your wheel choices as well. (you can never go back to 15" wheels much less 14" and so far I've only seen 1 set of unique 16s that fit and even most 17s won't work )

Sep 04, 09, 06:23 AM	#4
roblop04 G20 Senior Member Feedback: (15) (100%) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Coral Springs Posts: 502 Vehicle: 99 AR2/QT1 P11t	i have the g20 sport rims.. now.. are the brembo brake set up the ones that come originaly on the spec-v??

Sep 04, 09, 06:38 AM	#7
roblop04 G20 Senior Member Feedback: (15) (100%) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Coral Springs Posts: 502 Vehicle: 99 AR2/QT1 P11t	Since I have the G20 Sport rims.. then that brake setup would not fit correct??

Sep 04, 09, 06:58 AM	#9
roblop04 G20 Senior Member Feedback: (15) (100%) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Coral Springs Posts: 502 Vehicle: 99 AR2/QT1 P11t	thanks chris.. and i just traded a set of 2004-2006 spec-v rims for the G20 sport.. I guess i have to look for another brake setup that would work on the Sport rims.. thanks again..

Sep 04, 09, 07:03 AM	#10
HockeyVG G20 Member Feedback: (3) (100%) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 226 Vehicle: '94 Auto P10	The wilwood's do fit on the sport rims, right? If so, that may be an option for you. I'm just guessing you want the free brakes from your friend instead

Sep 04, 09, 07:11 AM	#12
roblop04 G20 Senior Member Feedback: (15) (100%) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Coral Springs Posts: 502 Vehicle: 99 AR2/QT1 P11t	Sorry I forgot to mention I have a 99 P11T.... I did the trade because I like the Sport rims better...

Sep 04, 09, 07:13 AM	#13
Chris Laid off 10/14/08 Feedback: (75) (100%) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 10,895 Vehicle: POS 95 g20t MT	okay, to improve braking, have you considered going SS Brake lines 1st? and improving the brake pads you are using (doing a full flush of the system and possibly upgrading brake fluid?) You'd be surprised what SS brake lines can do for braking feel for example.

Sep 04, 09, 10:18 AM	#15
Chris Laid off 10/14/08 Feedback: (75) (100%) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 10,895 Vehicle: POS 95 g20t MT	no worries. It seems Techafit is the company to talk to about custom applications (see other brake-line thread here for details) and apparently the only company willing to work with g20 owners so far (goodridge wouldn't give us the time of day when I tried to get them to make modifications for better fitment for example) and upgrade on brake fluid would be ATE gold or ATE super blue (good for up to 4 years in a street vehicle but only good for a few track events before needing to be bled in that application)

Sep 04, 09, 10:26 AM	#16
polg20 G20 Guru Feedback: (18) (100%) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,703 Vehicle: G20	yeah ive missed that techafit GB by couple days, but there is a thread on a design flaw on those. any particular brand of fliud you can suggest?

Sep 04, 09, 10:46 AM	#17
Chris Laid off 10/14/08 Feedback: (75) (100%) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 10,895 Vehicle: POS 95 g20t MT	ATE Gold or ATE Super Blue. www.ogracing.com sells it for $10.95 a bottle IIRC (that's what I would recommend for someone who want's to keep it in a street car for 2-4 years)

Sep 04, 09, 03:57 PM	#18
eugeneg20 G20 Senior Member Feedback: (0) (0%) Join Date: May 2007 Location: woodburn,oregon Posts: 671 Vehicle: 1994 & 1992 g20	so the 2002 and 2003 spec v rims fit both the p11 and p10 correct me if im wrong

Sep 04, 09, 04:36 PM	#20
Necraos606 G20 Member Feedback: (4) (100%) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Billings MT Posts: 149 Vehicle: 96 P10	Those 16" that fit, are you talking about the Regamasters? I know a couple of other high dollar wheels (TE37, SSR Type-C both 16x8) that fit over brembos. Being forged and having small, thin spokes is always a plus. If you REALLY wanna know what wheels fit, head over to the B15forums. They'd be glad to help you out.