Yea, that's why it's took me so long to even approach the car with them Pat. I know it's gonna be fun. I had fun removing the intake from the engine that's out of the old car with the oil filter spout in the way...
are you refering to the thermoblock spacers? If so the one in the middle of the intake mani isn't bad at all. The har one is where the engine and the intake mani connect~ So for me old DE, i just did 2/3
Also, i haven't forgotten bout you too mark... just been uber busy~ :-\
Is the engine out of the car, or are you doing it the hard (but easy, as you dont have to take the engine out?) way? If it's in the car, does it feel any different yet, or do you need all 3 to feel it? Nad..when you have all 3, DO you feel it?
I bought some for the DE..then it died. SO now I have a set of these up for sale, but seems that noone wants them.. Maybe if you do your best commercial-style Mark, I can link to this thread, and people will go crazy!
Just a side question, without any thread-hijacking..will the DE-ones fir the VE? I cant remember if the intake ports are different...
I haven't even driven it since I did the TB spacer Kristoffer. It's not gonna make much difference as it's just stopping the heat from the heated TB being transferred to the plenum but there is a lot more heat from the engine still to be stopped.
They did a dyno with the TB and plenum spacers installed, but without the most important one...head-intake and got a gain.
The VE intake ports are bigger then low port DE ports but I haven't seen a pic of the ports on a Euro RR ....
I can possibly get you pics of that tmorrow Mark. I'm tearing down the engine as we speak, and everything that's bolted to the head is off. Get valves and springs and that stuff left, but the ex.mani and in.mani are off.
I'll try to get somephotos up
It wasnt that hard really, as the engine aint in the car, and the head and block was apart
But I imagine it would be one phunking hard job to do if the engine is mounted. Nothing I would throw myself into. Rather but the spacers, UR pulleys and flywheel and other stuff that goes onto the block/head, pull the engine from the car, mount eveything and then mount the engine again. Just a thought
Anyway. If you decide to do all three, maybe it is easier to remove the whole intake from the head first, then do the head-to-manifold one and the manifold-to-plenum one like that. Might be easier to do it if you just pull everything from the car, fuel rail and all. Just a thought.
The help you get cooler intake air, hence, more dense. At least that's what I think the theory is. You will moce the powerband a little, and the injectors will fire a little off, but I read something about that somwhere, and I dont think it mattered that much.
I dont think the losses are big at all (if any), compared to the positive sides of it.